Tomizawa Crash

[rac3r]

Marshalls may be charged with manslaughter

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2010/September/sep0710-Marshalls-may-face-manslaughter-charges-over-Shoya-Tomizawa-death/
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[lllN30lll]

You seriously believe a word that MCN ever print?
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[Fisty]

Ive said it before and will say it again.

MCN=more crap that news
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[tvchimp]

I smell bullshit.

They can't possibly try to push for manslaughter, he could have been bleeding internally from the get-go which killed him, I heard the marshall's dropped him (unsure how true, i didn't get to see it, and have yet to see footage of it) which obviously couldn't have helped if true.

But it's a bit rediculous. If they manage to go through with it (if it is actually true) then I'd expect doctor's worldwide to be trialled for manslaughter on the same principle, they couldn't save someone, tried to help, but the person died.


It's not true.
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[iooi]

I don't think they should be looking at the marshal's involved, if what is said is true.
They really should be looking at the people responsible for not stopping the race. It was clear, that with a downed rider in the middle of the track. Who was clearly seriously injured, as he was not moving at all. That the race should have been stopped. Even on the grounds of the marshalls safety. As they had to go onto the track and move him.
The fact they may have dropped him, will have had more bearing on the fact that they will have been worried about their own safety with bikes still racing round the track. Even if it was under waved yellow's.

Either way. The poor lad was on his way to the race track in the sky due to his injuries.
I do wonder if they held the actual anouncement of his death back till after the GP race, as I'm sure that the riders would not have wanted to race, if they had known.
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[Silver]

If you're going to start charging marshalls with manslaughter then we'll see the end of racing, or massive price increases. Marshalls are unpaid volunteers and who's going to do that if you could land up in prison?

[gmanxiii]

Don't you have to sign a disclaimer when you go on a track that absolves the circuit for risk and injury?
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[swampy]

I vaguely remeber that after Senna's crash at San Marino GP the authorities charged some of the Williams team with manslaughter because in Italian law there has to be someone to blame in situations such as these, even if it seems to be an accident (cant remember the exact details though)...
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[Frost]

With Senna's crash it was claimed that the car went out of control due to poor work from the mechanics, so it was a different situation.

Charging those guys with manslaughter would be like charging a doctor with manslaughter every time one of their patients died. The marshals may not have done everything absolutely perfect, but after a crash like that he'd have died anyway.

Look what happened to scott reading when he came onto the scene of the accident, he was lucky not to have been seriously hurt. If the marshals were in the habit of leaving bikes & bodies on the track there would have been a lot more of that happening.

[iooi]

[swampy]

I understand that there were extenuating factors in Senna's crash i.e. steering column etc.

My point was that I broadly remember in the wake of the Senna crash hearing that in Italy their legal system considers that there MUST be blame in an accidental death, even if none is obvious...
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