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 MarJay But it's British!

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 Posted: 11:04 - 06 Nov 2003 Post subject: Biker Boyz |
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Hi all, I just thought that I'd share with you my experience of the film 'Biker Boyz'.
I watched it last night on DVD and I was expecting an absolute turkey of a film. All of the reviews I read said that it was a large pile of steaming manure.
I wouldn't go that far!
It wasn't a cinematic triumph (ha!) my any means of course, and the plot was a little lame. However, I felt that the realistic portrayal of bikes just about hit the mark. They made none of the cardinal motorcycling sins that often happen in films like believing that Harley's are fast. They even refer to a stoppie as a stoppie and not an endo!!
The action was well coreographed and despite the liking for open face helmets, the racing held up okay (although I still don't see the skill in drag racing compared to road racing!). Even the dodgy crash at the beginning was at least feasible.
The Gang structure was a little to regimented for my liking, I don't imagine that its anything like that in America really,(although tehre are stunt crews) I reckon they're just a load of guys who like to ride and have a good time in groups rather than the strict codes of conduct depicted in the film. Leave that to the Hells Angels!
The acting was at best above average with a couple of performances that require you to hold your nose whilst watching (they stink). However, they are a million times better than the undercover cop from The Fast and The Furious. Laurence Fishbourne is WAY better than Vin Diesel!!
Probably the worst bit in the film was the closing drag race (mainly because it was on a gravel strewn dirt track) and that soured the experience somewhat for me. Otherwise, if you take it how its meant, as a enjoyable brain-shutdown-for-an-hour-and-a-half movie its good. If you're looking for shakespearian acting and realistic road racing then you're out of luck.
The stunts and the technical bits make the film I reckon. The first hollywood film to not completely cock up the technical aspects of bikes? Quite possibly!
The Biking equivalent of The Fast And The Furious? More like The Fast and The Furious is the car equivalent of Biker Boyz!
Oh, and the title sucks. Overall thats probably the worst bit about the film as a package.
Sum up in one word?
Enjoyable.  ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
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 Posted: 11:08 - 06 Nov 2003 Post subject: |
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They also seemed to change tires while racing and the quater mile races seemed to go on for 10mins. Even I can do a quater mile quicker on my NSR  |
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 MarJay But it's British!

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 Posted: 11:34 - 06 Nov 2003 Post subject: |
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Yeah, see I thought about that, and in TFATF, they keep on about quarter miles. However in BB, they never *actually* mention that the drag races are done over a quarter mile... (plus the film would be boring if the races were done in 10s; IN TFATF they talk about "Ten second cars" yet in one scene a bloke starts typing on his laptop while in the middle of a drag race!!)
Oh and when they're actually on the drag strip, there's nothing keeping the two bikes from hitting each other like a barrier or whatever. I'm sure that drag strips would have a barrier or something
I never noticed them change tyres mid scene (Unlike MI:2!) you were lucky if it wasn't four times a scene!
Don't diss it, it was more technically true to life than any other bike film I've seen.
I can't wait for tourque to come out now!!
(Look on [url]us.imdb.com[/url] if you don't know what I mean )[/url] ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
Remember kids, bikes aren't like lego. You can't easily take a part from one bike and then fit it to another. |
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I'm more looking forward to 'Faster' will probably be out next year now though.  |
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Thing that got me was the number of gear changes in the races.  ____________________ The BCF's very own Party boy! Though he's getting old and feeling it!
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Hell my model CBR must have been the lower spec version meant for polishing only, as I've only got the 10 gears.  ____________________ The BCF's very own Party boy! Though he's getting old and feeling it!
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What ^they^ said. Unfortunately I've got stuff to do this lunch time so I shan't go into the many many failings of this film . |
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Good post for controversy Mark.
I haven't seen Biker Boyz, but from everything I've heard it involves piles and poo. ____________________ Gallery |
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| Dusty wrote: | Good post for controversy Mark.
I haven't seen Biker Boyz, but from everything I've heard it involves piles and poo. |
I thought that, but I also thought that that the film was average rather than poor. Yeah, so the races last a bit longer than 10s but its never explicitly mentioned that they are quarter mile races.
Yeah, so there's a lot of gear changing going on... and yeah so maybe the tyres do change mid race (I didn't notice).
But the stunts were cool, there were no special effects (MI:2) and the whole point of the story wasnt to say that the hayabusa was better than the Gixxer, as far as the movie makers were concerned they're both just bikes - no more no less. If they wanted to make a film where each type of bike did what it could do in real life it would be a bit of an anorak type film.
If they made a film where they raced two trains and one won, the trainspotters would be out in force, but thats not what hollywood films are about.
Nobody stops instantly in the film, and yeah so the off road bit was crap, but there are bits in the judgement day 2 trailer where people ride off road up ramps etc.
Also the stand up wheelie bits were accurate I thought, same with the stoppies etc.
I'm not rating this film as a bike film, but as the best Hollywood bike film so far.
I think that I could do better. Blimey a trained monkey could do better... but what I'm saying is that its getting there. It could have been worse. They could have had neons beneath the bikes!
The paintjobs were crap admittedly. The story was crap, the acting was so so... but I rate it because of the following things:
1.) They use the correct meaning of the word 'Stoppie'.
2.) They use sportsbikes instead of Harleys, and Japanese ones at that!
3.) They had real stunt crew people do all of the stunts.
4.) They raced for realistic amounts of money/crash helmets, not for each others bikes.
5.) They recognised that sportsbike riders like to get a bit more oomph from their bikes.
6.) They all wore lids for racing (except one bloke who wins one then wears it from then on).
7.) They recognised that stunts can go wrong.
8.) They recognised that nitrous can destroy gearboxes and not just make people crash because of the extra power.
9.)They had females that rode - not just stood around to look pretty.
10.) There wasn't an English bad guy!
Okay, so there's not much else to recommend it, and I fully intend to do better with my planned film (its been in the pipeline for ages I've wanted so badly to see a good motorbike film other than easy rider, I've even done a few terrible storyboards).
All I need is a few warm weeks in the summer, a few camcorders, some people who can wheelie and stoppie (who have their own sportsbikes and full leathers - I might even go in it as long as I can practice my stunts) and someone to edit it / dub etc.
*cough* BCF *cough*.
I might even have a twin versus four undercurrent going on .
Mind you I might also need a few old police cars too...
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EasyRider is class.  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 22 years, 84 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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