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Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story (Netflix)
Well, feck.
I'm not British, so I haven't really known who he actually was. I mean the Jim'll fix it show, his charity stunts and so on. I also had no idea how he had so many friends in the high places. The knighthood, being mates with Thatcher, princess Diana, prince Charles, police officers and inspectors, being honored by the Pope, everybody loved him, being national treasure, etc.
All I knew was the ''recent news''. I bet many of the BBC executives and many others knew about this all along. Jimmy had been doing all this from the early 50's and to think he actually got away with it, living a full life, makes it even worse. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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RhynoCZ wrote: | Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story (Netflix)
Well, feck.
I'm not British, so I haven't really known who he actually was. I mean the Jim'll fix it show, his charity stunts and so on. I also had no idea how he had so many friends in the high places. The knighthood, being mates with Thatcher, princess Diana, prince Charles, police officers and inspectors, being honored by the Pope, everybody loved him, being national treasure, etc.
All I knew was the ''recent news''. I bet many of the BBC executives and many others knew about this all along. Jimmy had been doing all this from the early 50's and to think he actually got away with it, living a full life, makes it even worse. |
The documentary on Netflix is pretty tame compared with the book In plain sight by Dan Davies. Davies is a journalist who had become suspicious about Savile in the eighties so started interviewing him regularly. Saviles criminality can be traced back much further than the seventies or even the sixties when he was one of the leading lights of the pop radio scene. There's some strong speculation he may even have committed murder in order to pretend to be another coal miner during the second world war and then use this assumed identity to draw two wages. He himself thought for years that the reason he didn't get a knighthood earlier was because UK security services knew about serious stuff he had been up to, something even worse than his pedophilia. Did you see his gold medalion with the eyes set into it? Apparently those eyes were glass eyes he had taken from corpses in hospital morgues. The guy was a creep and a hard core criminal but also a genius, terrifying really. |
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RhynoCZ wrote: | Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story (Netflix)
Well, feck.
I'm not British, so I haven't really known who he actually was. I mean the Jim'll fix it show, his charity stunts and so on. I also had no idea how he had so many friends in the high places. The knighthood, being mates with Thatcher, princess Diana, prince Charles, police officers and inspectors, being honored by the Pope, everybody loved him, being national treasure, etc.
All I knew was the ''recent news''. I bet many of the BBC executives and many others knew about this all along. Jimmy had been doing all this from the early 50's and to think he actually got away with it, living a full life, makes it even worse. |
What makes the whole thing quite tortuous is that Savile did so much good in the world. Were it possible to produce an objective balance-sheet of his life's activity, the positive could have outweighed the negative many times over.
Take for instance his almost single-handed promotion of the use of seatbelts ("clunk-click, every trip") - that alone probably saved thousands of lives and prevented many tens of thousands of serious injuries. Part of the problem is that Savile was almost ridiculously clever, and would've been abusing people at the very same time as sincerely promoting stuff like seatbelt usage AND probably even knowing that - when he died - people like us would be mulling over the contradictions. He was determined to make it hard for people to damn him. He overestimated them though. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote: | RhynoCZ wrote: | Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story (Netflix)
Well, feck.
I'm not British, so I haven't really known who he actually was. I mean the Jim'll fix it show, his charity stunts and so on. I also had no idea how he had so many friends in the high places. The knighthood, being mates with Thatcher, princess Diana, prince Charles, police officers and inspectors, being honored by the Pope, everybody loved him, being national treasure, etc.
All I knew was the ''recent news''. I bet many of the BBC executives and many others knew about this all along. Jimmy had been doing all this from the early 50's and to think he actually got away with it, living a full life, makes it even worse. |
What makes the whole thing quite tortuous is that Savile did so much good in the world. Were it possible to produce an objective balance-sheet of his life's activity, the positive could have outweighed the negative many times over.
Take for instance his almost single-handed promotion of the use of seatbelts ("clunk-click, every trip") - that alone probably saved thousands of lives and prevented many tens of thousands of serious injuries. Part of the problem is that Savile was almost ridiculously clever, and would've been abusing people at the very same time as sincerely promoting stuff like seatbelt usage AND probably even knowing that - when he died - people like us would be mulling over the contradictions. He was determined to make it hard for people to damn him. He overestimated them though. |
Lolwut?! I do see the dichotomy, be the face of a government safety campaign, and get paid, during the daytime. Fist dead corpses at night.
Pick some random sick kids, for a Saturday night seat on Jimmy's sofa for a nice reward on the telly, pick some other random sick kids for a seat in Jimmy's roller on a Sunday, for a nice reward in the bumhole.
I reckons the living victims would probably rather somebody else (other than Rolf or Glitter) had been paid for the clunk click campaign. ____________________
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Ribenapigeon wrote: | You should read the book on him In plain sight. You might change your view then. Saville was a complete shyster and there's nothing he did for charidy that out weighs his wickedness. The only other person who agrees with you would be the man himself. |
The seatbelt promotion wasn't for charity. He profited from it - in monetary terms (getting paid for his appearance in the advert), in furthering his popularity (being in every other ad break on telly), and morally, etc. That's all obvious. But just because someone is being utterly selfish doesn't mean their actions don't also have positive consequences for other people.
If - IF - what he did played a major part in saving thousands of lives, what's the best argument for omitting this from an assessment of his existence? That's not a rhetorical question, by the way. There may be really good reasons for air brushing that out of history.
For example, one of those reasons might be this: We need to forget the old-fashioned notion of stranger danger. The people who abuse our children aren't random evil people - they're vicars, priests, pillars of the community, and beloved celebrities. Or uncles, step-dads and teachers.
Accepting that is very difficult for all kinds of reasons (we feel guilty that, in the past, we were so naive, and we unwittingly let these people near our kids) - but it's necessary and we have to do it. However, in demonising people - and particularly in the case of Savile - we're actually not getting away from the old stranger danger problem. Savile was this monstrously selfish narcissist....and nothing at all like you and me, because we're not selfish or narcissistic...Savile was, well, he was strange and...and...really dangerous. Ermm... ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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Oceans 8
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That HBO Gotti movie.
Didn't do much for me. I think it may be because it had such a high standard to live up to within the genre. Reading the book, "Gotti: The Rise and Fall" was better.
I would like to see an accurate portrayal of Roy DeMeo's story, but think it would be too brutal for modern sensibilities.
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pinkyfloyd wrote: | Maverick 9/10
If, like me, you were growing up and watched the first one and loved it. Then you will love this one. There is enough sentiment to get a little grit in your eye, enough nods to the first movie but some fantastic scenes. At one point the you could hear the whole cinema inhale and hold their breath, then exhale at the same time. Any movie that can do that to everyone in there, that gets my vote! |
I didn't see the first - I was put off by my college contemporaries who sung 'unchained melody' to every passing female .
36 years on I might give it a go. My boys in their teens watched both and rated the 'Maverick', Top Gun though was 'meh' to them. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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pinkyfloyd wrote: | A100man wrote: |
I didn't see the first - I was put off by my college contemporaries who sung 'unchained melody' to every passing female .
36 years on I might give it a go. My boys in their teens watched both and rated the 'Maverick', Top Gun though was 'meh' to them. |
You mean take my breath away? unchained was in ghost. Awful movie. Top gun, got planes, male bonding at its best, heaps of cheese. whats not to love? |
Bollocks - I meant 'You've lost that lovin' feeling'.. I can still picture them now.. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 1 year, 323 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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