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PostPosted: 21:28 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: 125 - Which ones? Reply with quote

I was planning on doing my DAS when I turn 21, however its going to take a while to save some money for the test a bike and insurance, so was planning on getting a 125, will also get me used to biking as well.

However, I'm not too sure whats worth a look at, I like the look of the sport ones, such as the Aprilla RS 125.

Are there any others that would be worth a look at?
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its been said on many posts but I'll say it again before someone else does.

If your going for the DAS course asap then there is not much point in spending a shitload of money on an RS just to get biking experience. Get yourself something cheaper like a Honda CG, Yamaha YBR or a suzuki EN or something like that for several reasons.

Arrow Cheap to buy
Arrow Cheap to insure
Arrow Cheap and plentiful parts
Arrow Easy to ride
Arrow Easy to fix
Arrow Wont cost a lot when its dropped

Also. You are going to get on something like an ER5 kwak or suzuki GS500 to do the DAS course. They have a more upright riding position, closer to the mentioned 125's than the RS which is a race bike arse up head down position and not the most comfy to be riding for long periods.

No matter what bike you decide on, you are going to get off the bigger bike during the DAS course and really miss the extra power and as soon as you have passed your test you will want a bigger bike.

The average DAS course costs the guts of £500 - £700.


You can pick up a decent cg and get the DAS paid for with the same money you would spend on an RS
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

When do you turn 21?

You could just do a restricted test Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a sporty look bike i'd stick with four strokes like the CBR125 and YZF-R125 (expensive, not really worth it imo).

Have you done your CBT yet? I would 'budget' in the fact you are going to drop your bike. Maybe you'll be lucky and won't, but the vast majority of people do at some point. It doesn't have to be an "off" of sorts, All sorts of daft situations come up like pushing it into the garden on an angle and leaning it away from you or coming up to a junction, putting your foot down and slipping on some shit on the road.

Echo the above sentiment, get a newish CG/YBR or even a CBF if you really want to spend the money. None of the 125's will be comfy at 70.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

...... Awaits all hail the CG Mr. Green

lol, really depends on what you want.. an everyday hopefully reliable 4 stroke ^ Ybr, Cg, cbr ect... Or something quick and 2 stroke that is prone to die a bit easier Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:
When do you turn 21?

You could just do a restricted test Thumbs Up


I turn 21 at the end of September, but got my car insurance to pay for at the same time, so can't really afford anything at the moment.

EdgEy wrote:
If you want a sporty look bike i'd stick with four strokes like the CBR125 and YZF-R125 (expensive, not really worth it imo).

Have you done your CBT yet? I would 'budget' in the fact you are going to drop your bike. Maybe you'll be lucky and won't, but the vast majority of people do at some point. It doesn't have to be an "off" of sorts, All sorts of daft situations come up like pushing it into the garden on an angle and leaning it away from you or coming up to a junction, putting your foot down and slipping on some shit on the road.

Echo the above sentiment, get a newish CG/YBR or even a CBF if you really want to spend the money. None of the 125's will be comfy at 70.


I really cant stand the look of the CG, however I do like the YBR and the CBF, will look into them some more!

I don't really have any roads near me that are NSL, so no need to go 60/70, a little dual carriageway on the way to work, but its a few 100 meters at most, and if it is really bad, I can take another way.

I've not done my CBT yet, don't want to spend the money on it and wait to get a bike, want to get my CBT and then a bike within a few days.
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CG is banging bike. Theres a reason all the bike schools use them. You can run those things off turnip juice and they wont bat an eyelid.

If you're new to biking, then you will be introducing you bike to the tarmac at some point. It'll happen, some people introduce their bike to the road surface at 40mph ( a quick hi, how are you road? bye) and others give it a standing drop. (i gave mine a standing drop more than once Razz but thats cz im weedy)

realistically, taking that into account, i say go for the CG because you want a bike to tie you over til you get your big bike. Pattern parts are easy to come by, and damn cheap. A quick search on ebay will show you this.
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 01 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Its been said on many posts but I'll say it again before someone else does.

If your going for the DAS course asap then there is not much point in spending a shitload of money on an RS just to get biking experience. Get yourself something cheaper like a Honda CG, Yamaha YBR or a suzuki EN or something like that for several reasons.

Arrow Cheap to buy
Arrow Cheap to insure
Arrow Cheap and plentiful parts
Arrow Easy to ride
Arrow Easy to fix
Arrow Wont cost a lot when its dropped

Also. You are going to get on something like an ER5 kwak or suzuki GS500 to do the DAS course. They have a more upright riding position, closer to the mentioned 125's than the RS which is a race bike arse up head down position and not the most comfy to be riding for long periods.

No matter what bike you decide on, you are going to get off the bigger bike during the DAS course and really miss the extra power and as soon as you have passed your test you will want a bigger bike.

The average DAS course costs the guts of £500 - £700.


You can pick up a decent cg and get the DAS paid for with the same money you would spend on an RS

Going to have to completely disagree with everything you have said there, if you are going for your DAS then you want the "biking experience" I know I keep going on about the RS, but in the same way every one bangs on about the CG, but sometimes I get the impression that some here that bang on about the CG haven't ridden both.

RS
Parts are still cheap
Not as cheap to insure, but you are going onto a big bike soon anyway so cost will be similar.
Easier to ride than a CG, you don't feel like you are going to fall off, a lot more stable in the corners.
Better brakes
Better handling
Easy to fix as well, no different to the CG really, once the fairings are off you can pretty much access everything, take the tank off aswell helps.

I have heard people go on about the ride position of an RS, well here is the thing, it really isn't that much different to a CG, I can sit up and ride my RS like it is a CG if I want to, but if I want to get some speed up past, 50mph say, I can hunker down and get out of the wind, you can't on a CG.

Yes it will cost you that bike extra to buy and insure but it is leagues above the CG, mine can apparently do 90mph.

The difference really is, one bike you can go down the shops on, and then go out for a blast in the country side, and one you can tootle down the shops on, and to work.

I have ridden the CG on my CBT and I can see the plus side of it being cheap but
You can't go fast on it, well you can, but it's square tyres will probably help spit you off
No confidence in the handling
60mph if you are lucky
They look awful.



Personally if it was me, my money would never ever go near a CG, I wouldn't care how much it would save me, they are dreadful machines, and even though I plan to my DAS soon, I will probably de restrict the RS and keep it for a while as it is a giggle to ride, even though I do want a big bike, I love the RS, half tempted to restore it aswell.

Your money though, and all the advice about the CG is good advice, but it is up to you, but if you buy an RS, buy a good one they can cost you a fortune if they have been abused.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 01 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get as new as you can for the money you can afford. If you don't mind them looking shit then things like the GS is a reasonable bet. DOn't have the cachet of CGs so usually cheaper in a similar condition, not as attractive to 17 year olds and pretty reliable.

Any jap four stroke will be much of muchness reliability wise.
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old thread I know, but saves starting a new one.

Does anyone know what prices I'll be looking to pay for a decent Yamaha YBR and a RS125? Had a look on Auto Trader and see prices at around £700 to a couple of £k.

Thanks Smile.
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