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PostPosted: 23:24 - 23 Sep 2010    Post subject: Anybody wear leathers through the winter? Reply with quote

I need to replace my damaged gear from my accident, I have to ride right through the winter.

Will I freeze to death in leather trousers? I am going to keep my textile jacket as it came out of the accident in pretty good nick. Obviously water proofs will be a necessity for the rain and snow, but in terms of coldness will I notice a huge difference?

I don't remember ever noticing my legs being cold in textiles but then I had the thermal layer and a pair of trousers on underneath.

Only reason I'm asking is that I wasn't particularly impressed with how the trousers worked in a slow crash, and a large proportion of my riding is on motorways. Seems like an ideal time to get leathers sorted since I don't really have the money for both.

Or am I crazy and I should just buy textiles again and hope I don't crash too fast?
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 23 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get some thermals to wear underneath, and a rain suit to wear over the top.

Thats what I do, the rain suit is tiny, it goes in a tiny bag round your waist.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 23 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly couldnt tell you. I have leathers for the summer and textiles for the winter.

I have new textiles for this winter and it looked miserable today when I had to go out for a run so I thought I would try them out...... U fkin cooked in them!

Bring on the winter, I'm ready for you!
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 23 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode through last winter with suit style trousers, leather RST jacket and quite a lot of the time, no gloves.

I coped ok but I wouldn't do it again. Gloves, textile trousers and defo need a winter base layer under the leather jacket or just use a textile one instead.

The bike cops seem to wear textile jackets and leather trousers. I think that seems like a decent compromise especially if you have a faired bike.
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 23 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fine in Leathers in the winter, personally though textiles are better, water proof and you can wear jeans under them which means getting to work you can just rip them off and be ready rather than faf with leathers and undersuits.
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 23 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode through last winter in my leathers as I don't have any textiles but I do wear some thermals underneath and its been working fine for me so far.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 23 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked No gloves!?

My hands were frozen with winter gloves AND a pair of woolly gloves inside.

Then again I was travelling for over an hour at 70mph to work and back, the cold was bound to get through.

This year I am travelling less than half an hour each way so hopefully it wont be quite so chilly!
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 23 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Textiles are a relatively new thing, you need an extra layer or two under the leathers which might mean you need a second jacket if not trousers for winter with a bit more room inside!
I used to ride a lot through winter with just one of those thick padded shirts under a good leather jacket and was usually toasty unless it was literally freezing and then who wants to go far on a bike?

The only problem is say you go into town shops you are boiling since they have the heat on about 28C.

As above, if it's damp fairly lightweight waterproofs over the top.
Most of the keeping warm is done by stopping the wind getting in, leathers do that pretty well unless you have trendy perforations. Razz
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 23 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always been told that wearing layers inside the leathers (I mean chunky layers not just thermals) stops them working so well in an accident as they aren't as tight or something?

Am I worrying about nothing with that?
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 23 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
Shocked No gloves!?

My hands were frozen with winter gloves AND a pair of woolly gloves inside.

Then again I was travelling for over an hour at 70mph to work and back, the cold was bound to get through.

This year I am travelling less than half an hour each way so hopefully it wont be quite so chilly!


I would travel normally between 20 to 30minutes. I don't even really know why I got into the habit of not wearing gloves and my hands were definately frozen. It was in 30 and 40mph traffic though.

I started wearing them again around January/feburary time, but on one ride when I was late for work I thought (where are my gloves, and left without them because I was late for work. Cue me coming off the bike at probably 40mph and ripping my hands open along with other things.

tbh, I consider it one of my best experiences on a bike. Well by that, I mean it taught me that gear is very good.
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PostPosted: 01:10 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
I have always been told that wearing layers inside the leathers (I mean chunky layers not just thermals) stops them working so well in an accident as they aren't as tight or something?

Am I worrying about nothing with that?


On the principal that the best protection is to not have an accident in the first place. Wearing sufficient clothing to keep warm and comfortable is far safer than wearing the best possible crash protection but being cold and inattentive.

I wear my leathers with a base layer and a thermal layer under them and a waterproof layer over them in the winter.

This is me with the temperature about minus 4 and starting to snow. Polyester base layer, towelling long johns, leather jeans and gore-tex torusers on the bottom half. Base layer, string vest, short-sleeve T, long-sleeve T, hoodie, neoprene top and leather on top half.

As you can see from the pained expression on my face, I'm uncomfortably hot and need to get moving so i can cool down.
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always find the biggest problem in the cold is my hands, I don't really notice it anywhere else!
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing As much as I try not to come off, it is pretty inevitable since I have to ride in even if the road is solid ice.

Last year even with textiles and several layers, I still found myself getting to work so cold that I would have to sit out the back of the shop for at least half an hour before I could work. Using the brakes and gears took serious effort, life savers even became a struggle.

But like I say, this years commute is a huge amount shorter so hopefully it wont be so bad, plus I know what to expect a little better.

Last year I found that my feet and hands were the worst effected by the cold, even with several pairs of socks and gloves on. Maybe I have bad circulation Confused
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This being the case, I'd suggest you need some heated clothing.

For most people, a heated vest/kidney belt would be best. If your body is warm, your extremities will stay warm.

I fitted syntec grip heaters to the girlfriends CB500 after advice from this forum. She has a circulation problem that means she needs lots of direct heat onto her hands. I have to keep switching the damned things off if I borrow her bike because my hands are sweating and uncomfortably hot (and that's on the low setting). They only draw 3 amps.
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PostPosted: 05:34 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My hands where terrible last year, alpinestars 365's where always a bit chilly in the cooler weather but even with a thermal lining underneath, going in to town and back my hands where almost like ice (and travelling for an hour, which i have done at night, was awful even if the rest of my body was fine.)

Heated grips helped alot, so the tips and back of my hands still a bit cold, but the warmth ment the often times I had pretty bad pain stopped... meaning i could actually use the clutch and front brake with out too much effort.

This year if i need to commute on the bike, it'll be leather bottoms, textile top, warmer gloves if i can afford it (or failing that 365's liners and grips) and my water proof boots. Possibly thermal base layer for my legs as well.

Oh and a neck warmer, really makes the difference that does.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SamJL wrote:
I always find the biggest problem in the cold is my hands, I don't really notice it anywhere else!


same here, I've just bought some oxford chilltex gloves to go with my leather gloves. Working fine so, but I would imagine the cold will eventually get through.
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Honestly couldnt tell you. I have leathers for the summer and textiles for the winter.


Same here. Thumbs Up

Although I do wear my leathers when we have a nice winters day and if the GF asks me too Wink
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:


Although I do wear my leathers when we have a nice winters day and if the GF asks me too Wink


Lucky you.... I walked in with my new leathers on and the gf laughed. Said I walked in like John Wayne.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: I did it last winter. Reply with quote

I wore two-piece FT leathers all through winter last year. The cold wasn't a problem; I have my work clothes on underneath, heated grips, and it's only about a 9 mile commute each way.

The leather was fine for light showers, or only being in the rain for a few minutes, but getting caught in any substantial rain was a bit of a bugger - couldn't always get them dry in time for the next day.

Have you thought about a cheap waterproof oversuit to keep you dry?
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't own textiles/warm clothing for winter, have been out in some pretty dire winter weather wearing leathers and it isn't that bad.

Only your hands, feet and neck get REALLY cold, the rest isn't that bad so some warm gloves, more socks and a neck tube should do you ok for winter.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Paxovasa wrote:


Although I do wear my leathers when we have a nice winters day and if the GF asks me too Wink


Lucky you.... I walked in with my new leathers on and the gf laughed. Said I walked in like John Wayne.


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PostPosted: 12:10 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride in leathers all year round.

But I do have waterproofs to go over the top.

I never did get a good pair of textiles, that kept me dry, they always failed. My water proof over coats do keep the elements out.

With regards to cold, I do have heated grips, I wouldn't mind a heated vest or something like that.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be just me or my bike style, but I often feel a chill coming in on upper arms first.
It's hard to get enough insulation on arms without restricting movement.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a big plate of porridge inside ye ken.

You can run about nothing more than BMX pads then.
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SamJL wrote:
it goes in a tiny bag round your waist.


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