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May the thieving buggers arse suffer from incurable itchyness and their arms too short to scratch it.
Glad your getting your bike back though  
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I thought you didn't have to pay if the police recovered it for evidential work?
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If you're insured your insurance will pay for it, if you're not - £150 isn't much in comparison with not having a bike. |
That depends. If the bike is worth £400, £150 is a pretty large amount.
In my case, my stolen bike was recovered about 2 mins from my house, but rather than come knock on my door (I was in at the time), they got a recovery company to get it. I had a 3 mile walk to the place.
The only reason I found out the police had it, was I had gone to look for it (as it turns out in the place it was found) and some kids there told me the police had taken it.
I still think we pay enough in taxes to not have to be charged when we need the services we pay for. After all, its not as if most crimes get investigated, so being charged to get your possessions back, does seem unfair.
Its a bit like airlines that offer low fares but then charge you extras for things that you need, so its no longer that cheap.
It would be a bit like if you had free healthcare, but if they managed to charge you for going to the hospital. Oh yeah charges for hospital car parks.
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I still think we pay enough in taxes to not have to be charged when we need the services we pay for. After all, its not as if most crimes get investigated, so being charged to get your possessions back, does seem unfair.
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But - as almost everyone on these forums point out in the current affairs thread on public sector pay - there is a limited pot of money from which services are paid for.
The police USED to have the organic capacity to recover and store your bike - now they don't, because someone, somewhere decided that the money used to resource that service was required elsewhere.
I can only imagine that a lot more people complained about a lack of neighbourhood policing, or 'Bobbies on the beat', or that all the police are racists and need to spend days in diversity classes to learn to love trans-gender Afghan refugees than they thought would complain about paying for vehicle recovery.
Despite the constant 'all the police are out with speed guns harassing motorists' bollocks that most of the media and population trot out, traffic departments all over the country are a shadow of their former selves due to changing priorities from the government and those twats at ACPO.
I assumed that you'd tell where my sympathies lie from my tone of voice in my last post.
For every person like you who thinks that bike recovery should be free, there's another who thinks that money should be spent on Somalian Community Knitting Centres, housing benefit for the feckless, 'cultural' festivals, may day parades, new tanks for Our Boys in Helmand, lower taxes, cheaper buses, etc etc etc.
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The charges levied are a disgrace really. |
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But - as almost everyone on these forums point out in the current affairs thread on public sector pay - there is a limited pot of money from which services are paid for.
The police USED to have the organic capacity to recover and store your bike - now they don't, because someone, somewhere decided that the money used to resource that service was required elsewhere.
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For every person like you who thinks that bike recovery should be free, there's another who thinks that money should be spent on Somalian Community Knitting Centres, housing benefit for the feckless, 'cultural' festivals, may day parades, new tanks for Our Boys in Helmand, lower taxes, cheaper buses, etc etc etc. |
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| Mister James wrote: | | Cheeseybeaner wrote: |
The charges levied are a disgrace really. |
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But - as almost everyone on these forums point out in the current affairs thread on public sector pay - there is a limited pot of money from which services are paid for.
The police USED to have the organic capacity to recover and store your bike - now they don't, because someone, somewhere decided that the money used to resource that service was required elsewhere.
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For every person like you who thinks that bike recovery should be free, there's another who thinks that money should be spent on Somalian Community Knitting Centres, housing benefit for the feckless, 'cultural' festivals, may day parades, new tanks for Our Boys in Helmand, lower taxes, cheaper buses, etc etc etc. |
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I agree but I still think £120 is extortion, especially if the machine is recovered locally to the owner's address. |
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If the police cant manage to provide the service to tax payers without charging any time tax payers have to make use of the police, maybe its time to adjust the pay scales of police officers.
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Don't be more obtuse than you have to be Colin - as I've said twice now, it's been decided that THIS service isn't one the police should provide.
This has happened because lots of people demanded other stuff instead.
That doesn't make it right - it just makes it yet another thing that has been decided by those who shout loudest and in the most liberal Guardian-reading fashion.
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Where I live, a police officer can easily earn £50k including overtime, whereas the average wage is probably somewhere between £13k and £18k.
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I think that says more about the area you live in than the police.
As of this month the payscales for constable go from £23,259 for someone in training school to £36,519 for a PC with 10 years service.
Even taking into account London/SE cost of living allowances it's not exactly living the life of Riley, is it?
You continually mention your copper mate so I'm sure he's filled you in on the downside - the cancelled rest days, the lack of any kind of observation of the working time directive, the enforced overtime, and as you point out - no union and no come-back.
Not to mention the fact you can't screw up - ever - at home or at work, or the Daily Mail will be all over you and you'll lose your job and probably go to gaol. Which you'll also do if you walk past any kind of incident when you're off duty, but if you do get involved and end up having to take action or do some writing for it the public (and Colin Wall) will wail that you're taking the piss asking to be paid for working on your day off.
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We dont need to reduce police numbers, we just need to pay them less. After all they cant strike can they.
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Oh, well that's OK then! A bit like robbing children then? It's OK because they can't fight back - simples!
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Its more expensive to be a victim of crime than be a perpetrator of crime, as victims of crime are more likely to pay up as they are law abiding citizens and you have their property, whereas a crim can pay off any fine at tuppence a week. |
Well, that's down to you, the public. You need to sort out the judges and the magistrates (who are members of the public) and their fucked up concept of sentencing.
edit If it helps, most acquisitive criminals that I've come across live miserable lives of unbelievable squalor, even the bad-boy muggers that give it large on the high street tend to live in filthy little flats sleeping 3 to a room and stinking of shit, dogs and BO.
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I would much rather pay the £150 to have my bike recovered than run the risk of it being stolen all over again because the police decided to leave it on the side of the road/in a ditch.
There can't be a "oh, the owner of this bike only lives round the corner, let's just push it back to his place" rule, it just wouldn't work. Where do you draw the line?
Yes, £150 seems a lot of money, but a guy on Friday had to be recovered by a private company (AA man refused to tow him because he suspected the car had broken during track use)... it cost £100 to take the car 4 miles down the road. The extra £50, as I see it, is some kind of liability cover and storage.
Totally off topic. [rant] It really isn't going to be long before you have to start paying for 'NHS' treatment. Heads out of the clouds guys, the government is in the process of privatising healthcare.[/rant]
Back on topic. I hope your bike isn't *too* bad and they manage to find some prints
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| Annabella wrote: | I would much rather pay the £150 to have my bike recovered than run the risk of it being stolen all over again because the police decided to leave it on the side of the road/in a ditch.
There can't be a "oh, the owner of this bike only lives round the corner, let's just push it back to his place" rule, it just wouldn't work. Where do you draw the line?
Yes, £150 seems a lot of money, but a guy on Friday had to be recovered by a private company (AA man refused to tow him because he suspected the car had broken during track use)... it cost £100 to take the car 4 miles down the road. The extra £50, as I see it, is some kind of liability cover and storage.
Totally off topic. [rant] It really isn't going to be long before you have to start paying for 'NHS' treatment. Heads out of the clouds guys, the government is in the process of privatising healthcare.[/rant]
Back on topic. I hope your bike isn't *too* bad and they manage to find some prints |
It doesn't cost £120 to take a vehicle 4 miles! That's extortion. If the same recovery firm is being allowed to rake in £120 every time a vehicle is stolen in a given area I'd say that's a pretty tasty racket. |
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