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Feasty
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Riding without a mirror... Reply with quote

So a couple of days ago I dropped my Divvy 900 on my car! What a plonka! Embarassed
Thankfully I half saved it and there is very little damage to my car but the bike lost a right hand mirror and I bent the brake lever quite badly.

I've now managed to bend the brake lever back to its original position, but riding without a right hand mirror - something I've never not had before - is horrible!! It's like a part of me is missing. I've got the parts and mirrors ordered but they won't arrive till this Saturday, which means another 3 days of commuting half blind. Any tips!?
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Riding without a mirror... Reply with quote

Feasty wrote:
Any tips!?


Yes, Shoulder check a LOT.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Riding without a mirror... Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Yes, Shoulder check a LOT.


+1 Thumbs Up Just had to replace my right hand mirror. Makes motorway driving more exciting when you have to shoulder check to move into the fast lane Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Riding without a mirror... Reply with quote

You get used to it and when you go back to mirrors, while it's nice, you still find yourself doing more shoulder checks as you do get better overall visibility.
I've commuted for forty five minutes a day through town for pretty much all of last year on a bike with no mirrors and found it fine.

The trick with motorway driving is to be going faster than everyone else, so you don't need to look back Razz.
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Feasty
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Riding without a mirror... Reply with quote

G wrote:
The trick with motorway driving is to be going faster than everyone else, so you don't need to look back Razz.


That's the trick I use everywhere I go anyway!? Laughing

I've always done shoulder checks with the mirrors anyway, but this time I'm feeling even more like I've got an owl's neck!
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inept wrote:
some inept dickhead broke my handlebar mount, i did not like it attall .... Smile


You could have bought another one rather than just breaking it though? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

the mirror on me gsx-r flopped about halfway to home. screw had come loose. i forgot to do it up when i got home. you just have to swivel about a bit more and be ever more vigillant and rely solely on that shoulder check. like has been said +1 for being the quickest on the motorway to avoid issues lol
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Riding without a mirror... Reply with quote

Feasty wrote:

That's the trick I use everywhere I go anyway!? Laughing

They you don't need to look back - whatever was just before in-front of you, is now what is behind you Wink.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride with a rather pathetic right mirror which leaves me with a huge blind spot, and no left mirror. It is very luxurious riding on someone else's bike who has reasonable mirrors.
Ditto the advice on lots and lots of shoulder checks.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll get used to it.

Been riding without mirrors for a while now. Makes you more observant, and works perfectly well especially if you're faster than everything else.

Plus, no mirrors and headphones = Completely oblivious to Police.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This happened to me a few days ago, still have no (right)mirror.
Coming back on the m4, looking right shoulder to check the lane is clear - at speed, opens my visor, and when you look straight, it closes again. Thumbs Up


I do think the wind was around 90+mph then...very windy night it was.... very windy indeed.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Riding without a mirror... Reply with quote

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[quote="Feasty"]So a couple of days ago I dropped my Divvy 900 on my car! What a plonka! Embarassed
Thankfully I half saved it and there is very little damage to my car but the bike lost a right hand mirror and I bent the brake lever quite badly.

I've now managed to bend the brake lever back to its original position, but riding without a right hand mirror - something I've never not had before - is horrible!! It's like a part of me is missing. I've got the parts and mirrors ordered but they won't arrive till this Saturday, which means another 3 days of commuting half blind. Any tips!?


Where did you order yours from? Wemoto seem to have some equivalent to the originals for a hefty £20 each, the only ones I can find online, but no doubt dearer from a yamaha place.
As far as I can tell you cannot retighten one of these mirrors once the nut within the mirror itself has loosened off as you can't open them up, the problem with them.
Bit of an oversight design wise but the mirrors on the divvy are the best I've ever had for visibility and lack of blur and the stalks are exactly the length they ought to be.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have taken mine off for the winter commute anyway..once we start seeing rain and cold mornings, off they come Laughing

Saves cash when/if i slip anyway...ive had the misfortune of damaging the actual mount which meant a new handlebar Thumbs Down ... also makes me check alot more shoulder wise.

Its a cow to start with, but im quite used to no mirrors now.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 28 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Riding without a mirror... Reply with quote

G wrote:
The trick with motorway driving is to be going faster than everyone else, so you don't need to look back Razz.

The last track day I did I took my mirrors off before hand rode to the track (Oulton Park - 50 miles from my house) I attempted the faster than everyone else technique but the thought a police car pilling down on you it isn't half disconcerting. However crazy that seems.

For the most part though the mirror less riding didn't bother me because of copious shoulder checks. The time I found it truly annoying was when traffic slowed to a crawl and I wanted to begin filtering. It was rush hour so there were other bikes on the road and I found it hard to keep track of them behind me.
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PostPosted: 05:58 - 29 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ridden without mirrors a few times and thinking about yanking them off my MT (the bars are pretty wide). Will probably look better too.

I tend to shoulder check whether I'm using mirrors or not - especially coming off slip roads to join by passes and the like.

Only times I tend to use my mirrors are when I'm lane hoping at similar speed to the surrounding traffic, exiting a roundabout (my left hand mirror's positioned mainly for this) or checking where other riders are when I'm riding in a group.

Riding without mirrors also has another bonus - I don't seem to get as aggravated by tail gaiters, as half the time, you're not aware they're there.
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 29 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Riding without a mirror... Reply with quote

Cheeseybeaner wrote:
Where did you order yours from? Wemoto seem to have some equivalent to the originals for a hefty £20 each, the only ones I can find online, but no doubt dearer from a yamaha place.


I went to my local bike shop, Manhattans in Sheffield, who are brill for getting any help for just about everything. Like you say the originals were £20 each Shocked but when I saw them I realised I don't have the original mirrors on my bike anyway, mine are round. They had a round pattern set for £20 a pair that looked identical which is what I'm getting. I got the original clamp section though, £15 for a little piece of metal! Worth it though, and it'll teach me not to do it again... Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 29 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could never manage riding without a mirror. It pisses me off on the pedal bike now that i'm used to having them. Being unaware of what's behind me CAN be solved by a shoulder check.. but is it really worth all the extra effort. most the time i wanna check my mirrors if i'm going in a straight line, just to make sure theres no arses screaming up behind me. if i replaced that with shoulder checks i'd ware my fucking neck out!
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 29 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rode my CBR125 for a good half year with only the right mirror, more important than the left, but definately glad I have both on my gixxer.

Hate not knowing whats happening around me.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 29 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took the mirrors off the ninja once, went out for a ride and it was horrible, so I put them back on when I got back.

The day I bought the KTM, the mirrors were removed and after a few days, it's just normal.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 29 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even tho i never just rely on mirrors, it's nice to just see what's happening behind you with a slight tilt of head. It's a habit of me always checking the mirrors, so without them i'd be doing shoulder checks every few seconds. Smile
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 29 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inept wrote:
I think it's much easier for fitter and slimmer riders to use no mirors ... FACT


You're the first person I've ever encountered that considers looking over his shoulder to be a point of effort.
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