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PostPosted: 11:13 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: speedway bike Reply with quote

Hi there, my partner has brought a really lovely speedway bike that he is slowly "doing up". Probably a really daft question but is there such a thing as a manual like you can pick up for various models of cars? Helen Embarassed
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will try! Bare with me, Helen, oh and thank you.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

warped one wrote:
Haynes manual will probably be the best. Just search the make and model on google and you'll probably find it.

Any pictures of said beast?


Have you ever seen a Haynes Manual for a speedway bike? Of course you have, in Warped Land, the place where men are women, Apprentices are gimps, Speedway bikes are regularly ridden to Halfords and reality is generally skewed!

OP, I doubt you'll find a Haynes for a specific speedway bike. There might be a "Haynes: How to fix your speedway bike" as a more general title, but I sincerely doubt it.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: speedway bike Reply with quote

lollipop155 wrote:
Hi there, my partner has brought a really lovely speedway bike that he is slowly "doing up". Probably a really daft question but is there such a thing as a manual like you can pick up for various models of cars? Helen Embarassed


What does he need to do to it?

Best bet would be to download a few random bike PDF manuals, none will be exactly like he needs but a speedway bike is a somewhat uncommon and bespoke vehicle, a read of a few manuals will give him a general idea of the issues.

There may be other speedway bike repair books out there, I don't know tbh.

Warped - you do know what a speedway bike is right? Here is a hint, it isn't slang for a pug ped Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be useful to join a speedway forum. Guys who work on them will have a better idea than generic books.
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a speedway bike, or is it a grass-tracker?
Grass-Trackers are the more oft found leaking into private hands, & the defining feature is they have rear suspension.
I spotted one on e-bay the other day, A 'Junior' class bike with a Truimph Tiger Cub 200 engine in a Hagon frame. Delightvul little thing... but they are virtually useless as anything but static display models!
Pure speedway bikes have no rear suspension. For many years they used JAP engines, but from the mid seventies Jawa motors took over, & I have NO Idea what they use these days!
Do know that they run horendouse compression ratio's and are tuned to run on Methanol, not petrol.
There's not much too them..... and they aren't exactly high tech, BUT, dont think that a haynes manual, even if one existed would be much help.
You might find a manual for the engine, that would give some 'guide' info, for things like valve clerances, ignition timing & that kind of thing, but as the motor will almost certainly have been tuned, not much of its likely to be accurate.... each engine will have been built (probably time and time again) for the Pro-Racer whose bike it was in. Then tuned for each race.
Probably more helpful than a manual, would be as said, trying to research the bikes 'providence', and find out who, in its glory days campaigned it.
Its a small world.... motorcycling a smaller one still....... motorcycle racing smaller yet, and the rarified world of the Pro-speedway world is Fucking TINY!
Personally I'd start with the ACU web-site. Will tell you all the regs for all teh different sports they sanction, & Speedway is in there.
Class regs may help you identify the bike more accurately, but hen teh clubs directory, should guide you to the speedway clubs themselves, and thier own wes-sites are likely to point you to any speed-way riders forums or message boards.
If not, some lists of meets you can go to.
Ask on thier message boads, or better, turn up to a meet and ask silly questions, sure folk will be more than happy to help you out and give you some ideas of the sort of 'stuff' you need to know.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all so much, i appreciate your time. Yes its a speedway bike for sure, all chrome and quite lovely! Its a case of always wanted one and got the opportunity, its really just a kind of "ornament" here, i doubt it will ever be ridden. I wanted to get something for christmas to do with it and thought a manual. Thanks again, Helen xx
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a trip to a speedway meeting and have a walk in the paddock. Someone might know a source of some meterial to assist.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

lollipop155 wrote:
Thank you all so much, i appreciate your time. Yes its a speedway bike for sure, all chrome and quite lovely! Its a case of always wanted one and got the opportunity, its really just a kind of "ornament" here, i doubt it will ever be ridden. I wanted to get something for christmas to do with it and thought a manual. Thanks again, Helen xx


Well the ONE accessory that goes with a Speedway bike is an 'Iron-Boot'.

Think the visit to a Speedway race is probably a good idea.... if you have never been, its very spectacular!

Just dont stand too close to the railings, and dress to be sprayed with sinders when the bikes go past you if you stand on the corners!

Anyway, for SOME unknown reason speedway racers race backwards..... they go anti-clockwise round the track, and they go slide-ways about it most of the time, left boot dragging in the sinders.... HENCE they have an 'iron-boot' strapped to thier foot.

Iron plate under teh sole, with a toe-cap welded on the front, and a couple of straps. Steel slides and it stops them wearing out so much leather.

A worn out one of them, cast off in the paddock, cleaned, polished and possibly chromes, would I think make the perfect accessory to a static display Speed-way bike.... maybe a helmet and goggles hung on the handle-bars.

OH! Did you Know:
In the 1970's, Professional Speedway Racing was more popular than Soccer?
I recall reading some-where that Televised on Grand-Stand, it got higher veiwer ratings, but also, it grossed more spectators on the gate than Legue football!
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

warped one wrote:



Well searching for Haynes manuals isn't something I generally do, but seeing as they make on for the space shuttle, I can't see why they wouldn't for a bike.

Also are you trying to score browny points for a married lass over the internet?
O dear you must be desperate.


do you even know what a speedway bike is? there hand made beasts that are almost all different in one way or another. its like saying there is a haynes manual for 'custom rat chop bikes' there all different and made from different bits and bobs so hard to really put a guide together
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

warped one wrote:


Well searching for Haynes manuals isn't something I generally do, but seeing as they make on for the space shuttle, I can't see why they wouldn't for a bike.

Also are you trying to score browny points for a married lass over the internet?
O dear you must be desperate.


Unfortunately, you gave unhelpful inaccurate advice . You weren't to know, but you could at least admit it when corrected maybe even apologise.

As mentioned, speedway bikes, are not production bikes. Not even all production bikes have a Haynes manual, only the more popular ones.

For example there isnt a Haynes manual for a Triumph TT600.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
Unfortunately, you gave unhelpful inaccurate advice . You weren't to know, but you could at least admit it when corrected maybe even apologise.

That's the thing, though - he gave advice when he didn't know, just guessed, Rolling Eyes.
Oh and the Haynes for the space shuttle isn't very good, don't think it'd be very useful for fixing or servicing one. Disapointing Thumbs Down. Wink

For the OP - speedway bikes, while they may have some chrome, are often quite battered and bit un-sparkly looking.
This is speedway:
https://www.digital-photo.com.au/gallery/d/12397-1/Motorcycle-Speedway-Racing_MG_3936.jpg
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

This is red cross




This is speedway
https://www.daveclarkeracing.com/images/bikes/used/sm/14.jpg

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PostPosted: 23:36 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
In the 1970's, Professional Speedway Racing was more popular than Soccer?


Football mate, football.....

G wrote:
Oh and the Haynes for the space shuttle isn't very good, don't think it'd be very useful for fixing or servicing one. Disapointing .


I wonder what the screwdiver rating for removal and disassembly of a space shuttle engine would be ? I bet it would start:

Step 1. Disconnect battery
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