Cam chain tensioners about to fail?

[TUG]

Can this cause intermittent cuting out or will i have a bent valve or 2? How do i check for bent valves with no compression guage?

I've put 2 bolts with nuts on to stop the plungers retracting but i fear it might be too late?
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[Casper]

[radical]

If your valves are bent the bike will not run worth a damn, if at all.

[TUG]

Best order up those manual cam chain tensioners then lol
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[SirEdward]

You'll be hearing increasingly frequent clicking noise when revving up if the cams are done for.
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[TUG]

[Kickstart]

Hi

Shouldn't stop it running or cause it to cut out. The cam chain tensioner just tensions the cam chain which will have virtually no effect on it running (bit of noise from the chain slapping around maybe) until the chain jumps a tooth or more (at which point if you are lucky it will run badly, and if you are unlucky it will bend a load of the valves).

If the valves are bent then they will not shut so you should have very wide clearances on those valves.

Why can't they manage anymore to make a one way tensioner that lasts for a reasonable length of time. Not like they have much movement to put up with.

All the best

Keith
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[TUG]

I dont know kickstart, they "fixed" it with a ratchet system but if it didnt hit the tooth propperly it wears it down and then rattles about as the spring has started to fail.
It not really running too good atm tick over has dropped to 1k instead of 1200rpm i set it too unless one of the choke needles is stuck again? i don't know.

I pulled a wheelie, landed then my bike cut out, thats how all this started, my bike had choke on at the time.

The only thing i could find on my electrics was a short at the rear indicators and blue oxidation on the starter relay plug and even that wasnt so bad.

I'm getting very worried now
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Haz ER-5, innit!

[Kickstart]

Hi

Just remembered it is a VTR1000 so a V twin, so I assume that the loading on the tensioner is a bit larger and more variable than with a 4.

Suppose it is possible that one bank has jumped a tooth. Whether that will bend a valve comes down to the exact design (just like some cars can snap a cam belt without bending the valves).

How easy is it to get the rocker covers off the VTR to check the cam timing and clearances?

Proper design of ratchet there shouldn't really be any movement to wear things out.

All the best

Keith
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[Acemastr]

Pulling wheelies with choke on? I'd assume (ass) that the bike would be cold if you had choke on?
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[TUG]

[Acemastr]

the ass was for me assuming :p
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[TUG]

I need a mechanic on here, my bike rattles, if i tighten up my Cam chain tensioners it gets very quiet almost as if it never existed, go down the road and it comes back?
Now don't get me wrong, i certain its them thats fucked, but which one as they are both the same, no ones ever said that both of them fail at the same time so am i really that unlucky or should i be checking my cams and such?
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

It's usually the front ones that go on them to be honest.

Why not just buy a pair of manual ones from Debben performance?
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[TUG]

Fitted them and i think its made it a bit quiter but the sounds still there, my oil is very thin too.
Oh and my bike decided to eat its airbox O-ring. Thanks VTR, you twat.
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[Acemastr]

Do you have to wind a manual one in? I know it sounds silly but how would you know how far to wind it in? and when to wind it in?
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[TUG]

Same as a fairing screw, you feel it pressing the guide against the chain and apparantly you wind it back out a touch, but its not making a big difference for me.

Am still waiting for my instant gasket to set, Cant believe it sucked its o-ring into the engine.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

[TUG]

They use hydraulic CCT's now donny and they still fail to tension propperly.
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[Acemastr]

I'm currently in need of one, have been for several months, just wear earplugs now and can't hear it lol.

bloody £70 for one!
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