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Choose your power
15bhp
1%
 1%  [ 3 ]
30bhp
1%
 1%  [ 2 ]
60bhp
12%
 12%  [ 23 ]
80bhp
12%
 12%  [ 24 ]
100bhp
23%
 23%  [ 43 ]
120bhp
11%
 11%  [ 22 ]
140bhp
4%
 4%  [ 8 ]
160bhp
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]
180bhp
2%
 2%  [ 4 ]
You can never have enough power
29%
 29%  [ 55 ]
Total Votes : 185

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Howling TerrorOutOfOffice
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Best BHP for UK roads Reply with quote

Been a while since we had a daft Poll.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think torque is more important Thumbs Up

But for the interest of the poll i have clicked 80 Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

BHP is more useful on the track, but riding on the road is completely different, you want power wherever you are on the rev range, rather than having to work for it (which you can on a track).......but having said that, I've been riding a cbr 125 for 2 years, and done 35,000 in the process, so anything's an improvement lol
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

..well i did say it was daft.

[throws this in the ring]

Most of us know 55bhp from a ultra light 2stroke will do +130mph, but not right for the roads in 'general'
Same goes for a 179bhp BMW S1000RR. Too much ...to enjoy it to its potential on UK roads.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted somewhere in the middle at 100bhp.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 60bhp v twin Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^80bhp Twin FTW Razz ..But we're biased and have limited experience on bigger/different bikes.

Surprised this poll hasn't been slammed.


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PostPosted: 14:16 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to say really, as my opinion will certainly not be shared by many.

For me, around 60bhp offers the most fun of being able to thrash the bollocks off a bike, whilst not getting into too much trouble, whilst making fairly decent progress at the same time.

The 100bhp+ 600s I've had have felt pretty useful on the road whilst being reasonably easy to use their performance, but they just weren't too enthralling along the narrow country lanes and town riding I need to/enjoy doing.

So, I guess a happy medium and my ideal figure would be around 80bhp, preferably in a non-inline bore configuration. Having said that, the two bikes I have at the moment put out around 60bhp and 45bhp...

Most powerful bike I've owned was my 954 Blade, and to be honest, I felt it was a little dull long term. Fun in short stints for feeling what 130 odd bhp does, but ultimately, a bit overkill. Maybe the rest of the bike was too good to cull the power and something like an SP2 or early R1 would give a more involving ride, but I've never come away from riding a bike like that with the feeling that I'd actually want to own one.

I do however, like to see the ever increasing bhp figures put out by modern bikes, but they're just not for me. I have neither the inclination or the skill to come close to justifying a bike with 100 bhp or more.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about good ole 1 HP and a carriage? Laughing Anything around 80BHP with good torque will do.
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howling Terror wrote:
Too much ...to enjoy it to its potential on UK roads.


Here we go again, what does that even mean???? Confused
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

At lest 140bhp on a sports bike for me, any less is boring theses days.

Offroading/commuting 30-40 bhp is fine.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here we go again, what does that even mean????
..I haven't an idea. But my gut tells me that 200bhp is tad too much Confused
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mentioned, its more about power delivery than peak bhp.

For lazy riding, its nice to have a bit of low rev torque.

For thrill seeking riding, its nice to have all the torque at high revs so you have to rev the bike to get it.

For me the inverse is also true. Thrill seeking with a bike which has too much low rev torque, doesnt work as either there isnt a much higher high rev torque, or if there is, its way too high for the roads.

For me a lot of the excitement comes from revving the bike. A bit of mid range is good, but you want to have sudden burst more at higer revs.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said you can't have too much but i have very limited experience... 125 and sv650 and a very quick go on an r6 so i cant really say.


Id love a 1000cc twin e.g. duke or tl for the torque side but a il4 because there will still be plenty of torque and a howling top end etc, but like i said i cant really say, i can only go on what others have reported.

I think though that my SV with only about 60bhp is good fun as i reallly rag it to death and usually redline it because it tops out so quick, but then it always leaves me wanting more!


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PostPosted: 14:36 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one can decide what that means!! Ive had 25hp, 65hp, 100hp, 120hp, 135hp and 180hp. I can honestly say Ive enjoyed every one of them and never when Ive been out have I not managed full throttle. Each of those bikes will go as fast as the one below it with less power but will pull harder and faster when Im out on the open road.

Just because its not being used 100% of the time doesnt mean its too much and isnt needed every now and then.

Thats my theory anyhow.

My answer is 'Can never have too much'

or 'Have as much as you want'
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My knowledge is expanding. Ta.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
Howling Terror wrote:
Too much ...to enjoy it to its potential on UK roads.


Here we go again, what does that even mean???? Confused


To me using the potential of a bike is keeping the engine spinning (on my bike it doesn't drop much below 10,000rmp) which means lots of gear changing (on long twisty roads I get a sore foot). I think/guess (I haven't owned a big bike) that the number of roads you could do this on would be limited when using a sports 600 or something. There are very few roads where I can't thrash my bike on. I can't see how a bike which will do near 100mph in first gear is usable on the majority of uk twisty roads.

But like I said I have never owned a sports 600 so maybe you can. But you must be doing some silly speeds then
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough point but what if I can keep up without having to rag the tits off the bike Im on by using the power it has all over the place then when the road opens up disappear into the distance?

Nothing to do with riders or anything its just a comparison. You may have the bike on the boil at 10k and getting the most out whatever you have but that doesnt mean a bigger bhp machine couldnt do that comfortably and then have the extra power for use where its needed on overtakes and high speed runs.

I know that on the motorway I was happier having my hayabusa to roll on the throttle and speed clear of anything in my way than I would have been on my SV. Its horses for courses. The advantages of big power arent just at the screaming end of the scale Smile

Perhaps the majority of britains roads doesnt include where I live. Cumbria is fun Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I see your point. I will probably enjoy more power when I one day get it. I really enjoying thrashing the bike but it is a pain in the arse doing motorway and main a-road work, the A6 over Shap is abit too much for my bike in places. Where as Sedburgh into Kendal is great fun (A6 to Shap is fun but more power would help!). Cumbria is less than 30 mins from home, just I am never home!
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 69bhp at the moment and could use more. Smile

Its being good enough to USE the power. Fine having 190bhp but if your not good enough to use it all why bother.

And use, means knowing when its safe to use and when not to.

Most of my mates bikes make more power, but I can still keep ahead most of the time (thats why I need more Laughing)
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

For fun; around 35-45rwhp with a peaky delivery.
For getting from A to B with ease - I reckon 200-220rwhp with a flat big-bike style delivery.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

about 100 bhp and 675cc of four stroke triple

or 70 bhp of 350cc two stroke twin

just about perfect for me Cool
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howling Terror wrote:
^^^80bhp Twin FTW Razz ..But we're biased and have limited experience on bigger/different bikes.

Surprised this poll hasn't been slammed.


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I didn't realise you got yours, I wouldn't mind the extra 20 Laughing

Tbh though it also depends where you live and ride. If you live in London 60 odd bhp is fine but if you live out in the sticks you might want a bit more, also depends if you like using the gears or just rolling on and off the throttle
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost every year the barrier is raised another few hp...you can never have 'too much' power.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 02 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say for the type of riding I do, ie A+B roads, some city center and no motorways probably about 50-60hp in something that you don't have to rev too much to get your 60hp. (If I wasn't so short I'd buy a supermoto Smile )

I think a lot of the time people don't ride 4cyl sportsbikes in a way that gets the best out of them. Which is probably why you get people claiming that 100hp isn't enough, as they are short shifting and riding in a way thats only using about 50% of the power most of the time. I think to get the most out of one you need to have absolutely no mechanical sympathy and just let it scream everywhere, after all they are supposedly race bikes for the road.
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