Whick 125cc is better

[seantobin43]

Yamaha Ybr 125cc 2007 or Honda Varadero 125cc 2002

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[c_dug]

They're both completely different bikes, it depends mainly on what you want it for and how big you are, amongst other things.
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[truslack]

I like the 'dero personally (haven ridden both) - more comfortable and cruises slightly higher speeds without labouring the engine too much.
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[ThoughtContro...]

Depends what you want, like c_dug says they're different bikes. If I had a lot of money to blow on a first bike I'd buy a Varadero, if I was on a tight budget I'd buy a YBR. Personally I'm happy I bought a Repsol CBR125.

Write down the Pluses and minuses FOR YOU of both bikes and then give it some consideration. YOU will be riding the thing, cleaning, polishing and fettling it, not a whole load of pontification BCF posters.
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[adamck]

personally....
Hyosung GT125R

Ive had 2 and not had any issues (still own one now)
Its nice, loud, HUGE, can be modified, quite a few aftermarket bits for it now, everyone will think your riding a 600 / 1000 (apart from the L's)

(white resprayed current one i own)
https://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g12/adamck/39657cbf.jpg

(the other one which i sold)
https://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g12/adamck/1-22.jpg

different riding position to a YBR though!
And no its not the quickest 125 out their as its heavy... BUT mine went 75/80 with a can, airfilter and upjet.

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[adamck]

GOOGLE
hyosung GT125R (now called S&T)

Their is a new EFI (electronic fuel injection) model for 2010.

Mine where both Carb's.

You can even get Yoshi cans for them now.
And NO ITS NOT CHINESE!

They used to make Suzuki's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%26T_Motors

Also when i say its BIG...
Im 24 and about 5'9 and this is me on my old one.
https://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g12/adamck/4-15.jpg

Miles bigger than a YBR / CBR / RS125 / R125
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[seantobin43]

the varadero looks like big 600cc are varaderos reliable
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[truslack]

My dad has a 'dero 125, never let him down (or me whilst I was riding it, and I kill any bike I ride). I know of a bloke who rode to italy on a 125 varadero...twice - the bike was fine.
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[adamck]

True, its about the same size.
Different style of bike though and riding style.
https://www.bikercafe.co.uk/images/stories/VARADERO125/varadero_125_black.jpg

https://image.superstreetbike.com/f/scenes/0911_sbkp_2010_hyosung_motors_usa_fuel_injected_250cc_motorcycles/31165497+pheader_460x1000/0911_sbkp_01_z+2010_hyosung_motors_usa_fuel_injected_250cc_motorcycles+.jpg

VERY similar engines tho, both V-Twins
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[seantobin43]

is there any diffrences in a single cylinder and V twins
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[truslack]

[adamck]

Yeah mainly the noise, just like a V-Twin and an inline will sound different.
The v-twin is usually more throaty and the sound will have a kindof pitch to it (with a race can).
You will be able to hear the bike rev from a lower pitch to a higher pitch.

single's like a CBR125 will sound like a pitbike engine with a can, it will be noisy and will sound good idleing but when you go it will be very mono, no real pitch to it just the same noise but quicker.

Also a twin will usually have a little more torque.

Their aint many 125 twins about tho, personally ive not found a 4 stroke 125 with a can, sound as good as a v-twin.

singles will usually be more boreable than a twin as a twin will require 2 cylinders to be bored and 2 pistons which gets silly priced, where a sinle only needs half the work and will be cheaper (if your thinking 172cc).
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[seantobin43]

are v twins heaver on petrol
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[adamck]

No i dont think so.
I can fit about £14 into my GT125R (tank is 17litre) and it lasts me about 2/3 weeks.
Tax is the usual £15 / year.

The manual say the GT125R is 117.55 mpg which you cant grumble at!
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[ulster exile]

I had a YBR ('08) and hubby had a Vara ('07). Being a shortarse weakling girl, the YBR was perfect for me but the Vara was a much nicer bike. More powerful, smoother ride and looks like a big bike. I'd have loved to have been able to manage it, but at least I never dropped the YBR.

[seantobin43]

which is better fuel injected or carbureter
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[adamck]

Hmm... i'd say carb as you can upjet a carb and there is less to go wrong electronically.

the way i see it... If something is wrong with your electronics your pretty much stuck!

If its mechanical, you can usually take it apart (like a carb) and clean it up, oil it and put it back in etc...

You can upjet a carb which can help with fuelling (especially with a can) but i think you have to plug an EFI in to edit the fuelling.

As for riding the bike... you wont know any difference.
most bikes are now EFI, usually older bikes are carb.

Also a carb will have a manual choke, where an EFI will have an auto choke (one less thing to think/worry about)

Also with a carb if you start tuning it you could always change the carbs for bigger ones etc...
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[seantobin43]

people do my poll
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[DJH]

You win the award for the most retarded question on BCF today.

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[seantobin43]

im nearly 17 i'm 6'1 and 12 stone
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[adamck]

Nonit fails the wheelie test. Won't budge! Much too heavy at the front.
I think it's down to the wheels and forks being so heavy and bulky.
Handles well tho,
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[27cows]

YBR, for sure. Though I don't like fuel injection on small bikes.
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