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woodie2k8
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 03 Nov 2010    Post subject: recommend a bike ? (125) Reply with quote

WHAT BIKE WOULD YOU GUYS RECOMMEND THEN :
17yrs old , not too confident on gears but im sure i will get the hang of it.

im 5 ft 8
would only use it for about 5 mile a day ( sixth form and back )
would like something sporty look
sound nice
£1000 (second hand)
£2000 (brand new) prefer a new bike as i would pay monthly
Supermoto or Superbike ( shapes )

im 17 and would like something nice to look at aswell , not to botherd about speed as long as its not dangerously slow
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 03 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honda CBR 125, Honda XR 125/Yamaha XT.

Sport look or supermoto ? Lol

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PostPosted: 22:10 - 03 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a 125. Its going to be slow and theres not a whole lot you can do about that.

As your not confident on gears theres a strong chance you will stall and probably drop it at some point.

I suggest having a serious think about what you want. Do you want a bike to pass your test on and then get a bigger bike or do you want a bike to use every day and not bother upgrading.

If you want to pass your test then get something cheap and second hand. Pass your test and get a bigger bike.

If you want to use the 125 for a few years then go for something like the CBR 125 or the YZF 125.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 03 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Its a 125. Its going to be slow and theres not a whole lot you can do about that.

As your not confident on gears theres a strong chance you will stall and probably drop it at some point.

I suggest having a serious think about what you want. Do you want a bike to pass your test on and then get a bigger bike or do you want a bike to use every day and not bother upgrading.

If you want to pass your test then get something cheap and second hand. Pass your test and get a bigger bike.

If you want to use the 125 for a few years then go for something like the CBR 125 or the YZF 125.


ive already passed my CBT last year with a 50cc , and i would like to keep the bike for atleast 2 years
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 03 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've had the CBT for a year. That gives you 2 choices. Pass your full test in 1 year or re do your CBT when it runs out on the 125. Considering both work out to around £100 either way I would go for the test. If you re sit your CBT then you will have to pay out for the test eventually.

Trust me. You will get on fine with the geared bike and will want to upgrade to a bigger bike eventually. In order to do that you need to pass your test. Might as well go for a cheap second hand 125 and use it as a means to an end until you pass your test.

Consider also. You pass your test in a year and get yourself a bigger bike. Even restricted to 33bhp at your age it will still feel shedloads more powerful than any 125 out there.

Sure you might not want an ugly lump of a bike thats 900 years old but its a means to an end and capable of getting you through your test and the resale value wont get much lower than the price you paid for it.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 03 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
You've had the CBT for a year. That gives you 2 choices. Pass your full test in 1 year or re do your CBT when it runs out on the 125. Considering both work out to around £100 either way I would go for the test. If you re sit your CBT then you will have to pay out for the test eventually.

Trust me. You will get on fine with the geared bike and will want to upgrade to a bigger bike eventually. In order to do that you need to pass your test. Might as well go for a cheap second hand 125 and use it as a means to an end until you pass your test.

Consider also. You pass your test in a year and get yourself a bigger bike. Even restricted to 33bhp at your age it will still feel shedloads more powerful than any 125 out there.

Sure you might not want an ugly lump of a bike thats 900 years old but its a means to an end and capable of getting you through your test and the resale value wont get much lower than the price you paid for it.


im looking to keep this bike for a few years, hence why im looking for a new bike so it would be more reliable, after the few years i would be getting a car, then maybe one day once i have my life sorted out i will get another motorbike, but i do not need to take the bigger test as i just need a 125 to get around my town on , which is not a big town, and for around £2000, i think a nice looking bike should be a high priority , thats why i do not want a cheap old bike to go around on in the mean time
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 03 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

woodie2k8 wrote:
pinkyfloyd wrote:
You've had the CBT for a year. That gives you 2 choices. Pass your full test in 1 year or re do your CBT when it runs out on the 125. Considering both work out to around £100 either way I would go for the test. If you re sit your CBT then you will have to pay out for the test eventually.

Trust me. You will get on fine with the geared bike and will want to upgrade to a bigger bike eventually. In order to do that you need to pass your test. Might as well go for a cheap second hand 125 and use it as a means to an end until you pass your test.

Consider also. You pass your test in a year and get yourself a bigger bike. Even restricted to 33bhp at your age it will still feel shedloads more powerful than any 125 out there.

Sure you might not want an ugly lump of a bike thats 900 years old but its a means to an end and capable of getting you through your test and the resale value wont get much lower than the price you paid for it.


im looking to keep this bike for a few years, hence why im looking for a new bike so it would be more reliable, after the few years i would be getting a car, then maybe one day once i have my life sorted out i will get another motorbike, but i do not need to take the bigger test as i just need a 125 to get around my town on , which is not a big town, and for around £2000, i think a nice looking bike should be a high priority , thats why i do not want a cheap old bike to go around on in the mean time



Don't you dare go for light motorcycle test. It's a waste of money, a total stupidity, and a worthless catigory that should be taken away.
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 03 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't you dare go for light motorcycle test. It's a waste of money, a total stupidity, and a worthless catigory that should be taken away.


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Up to you tho buddy. We're not here to tell you what you should do. Just offer advice. Get yourself a bike you like and keep it but do yourself a favour and get the full bike test done. Once its done its done for life.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 03 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got an '05 CBR 125 as a first bike to learn on until I get my test sorted.

Obviously I've no real comparison to other bikes (except push-irons) but I really like it. It feels and handles nice, is pokey enough to hold it's own in traffic and will do 60mph no problem with 70+ there with enough road, tailwind etc.
It's fast enough to scare myself on but I've not felt scared of it. Plus it looks and sounds great (imo).

I'd certainly recommend. Just be careful, as I guess with most 125s, of lemons.

I'm 5'8 and 10st 12lb btw.

Good luck Wink
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 03 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i loved my xr125. supermoto look
i like the hyosung 125's too.
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 05 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
You've had the CBT for a year. That gives you 2 choices. Pass your full test in 1 year or re do your CBT when it runs out on the 125. Considering both work out to around £100 either way I would go for the test. If you re sit your CBT then you will have to pay out for the test eventually.


I have to agree! You may not want a full bike licence just yet, but if you passed your Mod 1 + 2 on a bike that has a 125cc engine capacity and is capable of 62.1mph, you may as well go for it instead of doing your CBT again, which only lasts 2 years.

And think about it...if you come back to biking in say 10 years time, you'll STILL have a bike entitlement! And seeing as how test prices are going up all the time, it may well be a wise investment.

Plus, if you take it at 17, you are restricted to 33bhp for two years. After those 2 years, you can get any bike you can afford/insure etc... BUT you don't need to ride any bike in those two years. So you could do your test, bimble about on a 125 for the next 5 years and then jump straight onto a big bike of any engine size, when you've 'gotten your life sorted' Wink
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 05 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeyBrown wrote:


I have to agree! You may not want a full bike licence just yet, but if you passed your Mod 1 + 2 on a bike that has a 125cc engine capacity and is capable of 62.1mph, you may as well go for it instead of doing your CBT again, which only lasts 2 years.

And think about it...if you come back to biking in say 10 years time, you'll STILL have a bike entitlement! And seeing as how test prices are going up all the time, it may well be a wise investment.

Plus, if you take it at 17, you are restricted to 33bhp for two years. After those 2 years, you can get any bike you can afford/insure etc... BUT you don't need to ride any bike in those two years. So you could do your test, bimble about on a 125 for the next 5 years and then jump straight onto a big bike of any engine size, when you've 'gotten your life sorted' Wink


I second that. Get it over and done with now. I left it for so long I ended up having to do Mod1 & 2 etc when I had a chance of just taking the old style test.

Also as a result of the EU Directive they are looking to change the requirements yet again so that after the two year restriction you will need to take another test to move up to a bigger bike.

"The key aspect of the
consultation affecting the
motorcycling industry includes
replacing the current two
categories of motorcycle with
three new categories as
follows:
• A1 (up to 125cc)
• A2 (up to 35Kw)
• A (above 35Kw)
There will also be an increase
in the minimum age, from 21
to 24, for those wanting to ride
the most powerful machines
via Direct Access.

After acquiring a motorcycle
licence and reaching a
minimum age or level of
experience, riders wanting to
upgrade their licence to ride
a larger bike will have to take
additional training or a
further test. "

Good luck with whatever you decide.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 05 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What they all said. You can't go far wrong with a used CBR125 with a service history, and it'll hold its value well. If you want to go newer, the CBF125 has proper junior-sports-commuter looks and good insurance and running costs.

Definitely sit the current "A2" test (DSA term for a test sat on a 125 capable of 100kph, gets you an "A (restricted)" license) ASAP - you don't want to get caught up in the licensing crapshoot that's coming somewhere between 2011 and 2013. Just ride until spring, get your confidence up, and you should ace it.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 05 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Get yourself a bike you like and keep it but do yourself a favour and get the full bike test done. Once its done its done for life.


Or until the DVLA fuck up and wipe the category off your licence, and claim they've no record of you having that entitlement, ever Smile
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PostPosted: 01:38 - 06 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:

Or until the DVLA fuck up and wipe the category off your licence, and claim they've no record of you having that entitlement, ever Smile


This is very true. I hear its been happening more frequently. The best advice I heard for that happening is keep the old license and report it as lost when you get the entitlements added or changed..... Then if they screw it up you can "miraculously" find it again Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 06 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
The best advice I heard for that happening is keep the old license and report it as lost when you get the entitlements added or changed


Yup, I always to keep 2 licenses on the go. I paid for it, I'm not giving it back. Heh, that said I surrendered the "lost" (and thus technically invalid) one to the DSA when I passed my test - DVLA sent me a shiny new one with bike entitlement to replace it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 06 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can you report the licence lost when they ask for it when you take the test?

Certainly, after I passed my car test, he took the licence from me after the end.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 06 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have to surrender your license to the DSA tester on the spot after you pass, it's just the quickest way to get your new one (the DSA shred it and tell the DVLA to issue a new one immediately). Since you're having a category added, you don't have much to lose.

What I'm talking about it is if you ever asked to send your license in for any other reason - e.g. change of address, endorsements. Just say you've "lost" the old one, and then hang on to it. If the DVLA then balls up your new one, you can "find" the old one and use it to sort them out.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 09 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

why has no-one recommended a 2t?
30bhp (when de-restricted) & easy to work on, 12bhp while on L-plates then 30 odd bhp when test is done, 2 bikes for the price of one. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 07:35 - 10 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd reccomend passing your test as the first priority.
Take a course, you dont actually need your own bike, then you can choose anything, & it needn't be a 125, and hence over priced & under performed & as like abused, for the money.

If you go your own bike route, forget looks, for 5m a day forget performance, look for cheap & reliable = boring..... its only to get you to & from, and ONLY to serve till you have passed test.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 10 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell you what, Mike. You take your VF1000F on a 5 mile commute, and I'll take my 125. I'll arrive while you're still fiddling with your disk lock, and I'll have spent less on insurance (woodie is 17!), tax, fuel, and tyres, plus my engine won't be full of cream cheese from not having warmed up.

A 125 is ideal for a short commute. YBR125, CG/CBR/CBF125.

I do fully agree on passing a test ASAP though, but not necessarily so he can get on a bigger bike, just to get insurance costs down a bit more, and the 2 year restriction clock ticking.
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