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brownops
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Mod 1 and 2 Reply with quote

I just passed my Mod 2 practical bike exam just short of a week ago Very Happy

It wasn't as hard as people make it out to be, especially Mod 1 which anyone can do as long as you have a bit of confidence in yourself and had a bit of practice doing emergency stop etc beforehand. I did find it totally pointless though Question when would you EVER do a figure of 8 in reality!!!

With Mod 2 all I'll say is that be calm, dont try and speed of too quickly and if you think the lights are going to change just slow down. Remember you only have 45 minutes out on the roads with the examiner, so take your time. Just dont go too slow as my examiner pulled me over and told me if i didn't hurry up and the test time ran out and i hadn't finished, then the exam would be terminated and i would fail Embarassed

Cool Overall you will pass, just have confidence in yourself and remain calm!
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done, hopefully Ill pass mine as easy.

As for Mod1, I would presume the point behind the figure of 8 is to show that you have good, slow speed bike control?? ie make tight turns without putting your foot down.
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 14 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

everyone seems to say mod 1 is hard, but if you have experience, it should be no problem.

If your unsure, just ride in slow traffic. Shocked i know i know sounds dumb at first, but if you control the bike there you should pass mod 1 simple
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nokiakeys wrote:
everyone seems to say mod 1 is hard, but if you have experience, it should be no problem.

If your unsure, just ride in slow traffic. Shocked i know i know sounds dumb at first, but if you control the bike there you should pass mod 1 simple


It's not so much that it is hard, but overwhelming and a thoughroughly invalid and pointless.

However, the test itself is fairly easy. You have about five yards in order to do the slalomn, and you can go as wide as you wish for the figure of eight. The manual maneouvering is somewhat pointless. The slow ride is really quite easy as the area is completely flat. U turn you have plenty of room. Emergency stop is such piss.

The only real issue is the swerve. As I see it, the three main problems people have with it are this:

1) Hitting a cone
2) Not making speed
3) Not stopping in box


Number three was the one which got me the first time I did module 1 (passed 2nd time).
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CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 40k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 51k.
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PostPosted: 02:41 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:
It's not so much that it is hard, but overwhelming and a thoughroughly invalid and pointless.

Have to agree with that statement, I think the only moves I've used is the u turn, slow riding (can't filter when f-ing lorrys are blocking the way) and the swerve (When some dumb ass drivers dont use there dam mirrors)
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PostPosted: 08:10 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:


The only real issue is the swerve. As I see it, the three main problems people have with it are this:

1) Hitting a cone
2) Not making speed
3) Not stopping in box


Number three was the one which got me the first time I did module 1 (passed 2nd time).


I'd say this was the only bit I was worried about with mod1. I stalled the bike as I came into the box at the end and thought I had failed for it because of this. Also my front wheel was not all the way in. Was cursing like anything.

Passed though phew!

Anyhow congrats on you pass brownops Thumbs Up
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, well done. And I agree, there's nothing particularly hard about Mod 1 or Mod 2, at least in the dry. I wouldn't fancy doing the speed tests in the wet or wind on a 125 though: the last FOI figures I saw showed that there have been (relatively) far more injuries in the Mod 1 than in the old combined test.

One thing - I would say go slow into junctions, but crack on out of them (up to the legal limit). The examiner is looking for confidence. If you can lose them, even better - the clock is still running, and you can't be failed on what they don't see. Wink
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with the comments regarding the swerve test, its pointless and quite possibly dangerous. I read the a government paper about the Mod1 test and there was a fair bit of resistance to some parts of the test, with the swerve test getting particular focus:

- its not a real world test, as you are unlikely to continue to accelerate towards an obstacle, which you have to do in order to gain enough speed for the test

- the test pad does not have sufficient room to allow the rider to safely get to the correct speed, instead they are forced to accelerate through a relatively tight corner to reach the required speed.

- out of all recorded accidents during Mod 1 tests, something like 90% of them were during the swerve or emergency stop maneuvers

- its very near impossible to practice outwith the test centre, given that it requires a speed of 32mph which is breaking the law, unless you have a piece of sufficiently large private ground (who does?). There was some debate about whether the UK should be allowed a lower minimum speed of 30mph, but this was turned down in the interests of keeping all countries in the EU on the same 50kph requirement


This is it, if you've got an hour or so to kill
https://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmtran/442/44205.htm
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your finding figure of 8 or any of the slow moving sections hard. Rev the the motorbike so it wont stall and just use clutch very gently to move forward. Not having enough revs will make it harder to balance Wink
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Dilyan
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Failed by kicking the cone during the swerve the first time.
Passed the second time (yesterday) by hitting 50kph on both the swerve and emergency stop. Having in mind the side winds and the "light" November rain I am quite pleased ... still can't take my eyes off the certificate.
Does anyone have a spare couple of minutes to explain what they had to do on their Mod 2? Tips welcome Smile
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It basic riding on the road.

There 10 minutes where you have independent riding. What's that I hear you ask? Well it when the instructor tell you to follow the sign to X, you basically you follow the signs.

When that's over he start to act like a sat nav... Take next left... Take 3rd exit at next roundabout and so on. This last for about 30 minutes.

So in total it about 40 - 50 minutes riding.

You just have to make sure you are riding at the correct speed for the road your on.... keeping a 2 second gap or more when possible. depending on the weather of course.

ALWAYS CHECK YOUR MIRRORS BY MOVING YOUR HEAD

He can't see you moving your eyes... so make sure he knows your doing it.

Other than that it's really simple, just relax and enjoy the ride... avoid rush hour times if possible.

Oh and well done on the mod 1.

Loads of people are chickening out of doing mod2 currently as it too cold, so you might find loads of space available for a test.... but it depends if your man enough to take the cold
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Dilyan
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the above. About
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if your man enough to take the cold
We rode from my instructor's house to the test centre for about an hour yesterday morning. Had to pee before hitting the tarmac at the DSA and ... well, lets say I don't think I'll be going to the misus for a quickie with my future bike Embarassed

Anyway, I have no other trouble with the cold Smile, and according to my instructor the only thing I need to focus on is not to take corners too wide.
Thanks again fella.
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dougie_t
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dilyan wrote:

Does anyone have a spare couple of minutes to explain what they had to do on their Mod 2? Tips welcome Smile


Full story on my recent Mod 2 here: https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=208772
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Dilyan
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 minors? Shame on you, could have gone for at least 7-8.
Congratulations Smile
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did he not ask you to perform a one handed wheelie while overtaking an OAP filled Nissan Micra ? Thats an oversight.


Only joking. Well done that man !
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