GSXR600 K3/K4 and ZX636 A1P/B1H

[Slacker24seve...]

Hi folks

I'm after a 600 sports bike for next year and the above bikes seem to be bang on for my 'winter bargain bike fund' of £2.5-3k. I'll want it for fast(well.... ish) road riding and the occasional longer trip. I have no interest in taking it on track at this point, my Hornet will be turned into a budget track tool over the winter after my recent 'incident'.

I'd like the thoughts from the owners, past and present, of the above models and differences between them. I've sat on both and liked them but no test rides as yet. CBR600RRs seem to be a bit pricey for similar years and feel pretty tiny to me. Insurers would dry bum me if I wanted an R6 as I'm 23

Cheers
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CBR600F?
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[Yarri]

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[Groove]

R6 at 23? Pah, i had my R1 when i was 19

B1h is the only choice out of the above bikes. Ask anyone. Its the law.
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[rac3r]

I recently bought a B1 and love it so far

Most on here are Pro B1 so yeah I'd go for that too

EDIT: Above is who I bought it off!
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[Yarri]

If you can get B1h for around 2grand then go for it, there few bargains out there, but b1h insurance is 150quid more on average then for R6. As for honda RR you'll be lucky to get anything decent for less then 3k. As for r6 they tend to hold their value like a bitch, i got mine last week with 6k miles on for 2 grand (because i was checking ebay every day for 2 months waiting for the right thing). Gixxers k1/k2/k3 go for around 1800-2500, k4 from 2500 onwards. You might also want to consider triumph daytona 600, they can go dirtcheap with low miles, 2k can get you decent 2003/2004 with around 10k miles on, insurance is also cheapest out of the lot.
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[Misc]

Give them test rides. I found the B1 very uncomfortable, almost unbearable on long rides (even on short rides it was uncomfortable). I hear the CBR also has an awfully hard seat. The early R6 was pretty decent but then you have the gear issues.

The Ninja seems to be the best buy for the money, always been cheaper then its rivals of the same year, but looks dated compared. (More to insurer i found too)

[MinhDinh]

[Souleh]

I have a B1H, im 6ft4 and I commute daily.

It isnt uncomfy even with a bag carrying my stuff

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[Souleh]

Its meant to be a small bike and when I tuck my legs in a bit it shows.. but its a great size. Brilliant bike and a fantastic daily

[MinhDinh]

I'm 5 foot 8, maybe 9.

Maybe my leathers are too tight, only get it when I wear them, and I do hit 120-140. Maybe the speed affects it too, I only wear my leathers when I'm doing a good ride.

In terms of height, it's not too tall at all, pretty perfect for me.

It's a great bike, I love it, compared to the RS125 it's a little bumpy and tight corners are not so easy but you know when and what it is capable of after 1 week. A little light on the front on turns at high speed perhaps, but this is comparing a 125 to a 600.

It looks sexy to me, is very fast if you rev it fully and generally bikers love them.
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[gixerstu]

My 1st big bike was a k3 gsxr600 I also owned a b1h for about 2 years.
The b1h was a fantastic bike but It is a bit uncomfortable on long journeys if your not moving about on it ie motorways.
the gsxr is more comfortable but its still a sports bike so its still not ideal if you go for a k3 it doesnt have upside down forks more modern brake's and its suspension is a bit soft compared to the kawasaki but a few people complain its too hard I thought it was just about perfect and the brakes are superb.
Im 5ft 10 and slighty overweight on the kawasaki my legs would go numb from the knee down on long journeys on the gsxr it had a further reach to the bars so it was the back to get it.
I have had a go on a R6 and hated it it was one of the last of the old shape with the exhaust up the side and I thought the cbr 600 rr was too small In my opinion Id be looking for a k4/k5 gsxr600.
Hope that helps only my opinion try before you buy everyone's got a different opinion.

[Yarri]

I have had GSXR 600 SRAD, was quite good, suspension was softer but footpegs were rather high. Now i have a 99 R6 and i must say it feels more comfy then SRAD, suspension is a bit rockhard, pegs are better positioned and handling + topend acceleration makes up for everything else.
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[Slacker24seve...]

Cheers gents, karma dished out accordingly.

Time to go test riding I think
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[rac3r]

I'm about 5'9 and I find the b1 comfortable commuting is quite fun, not as fun as the monster but still fun
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[L-Jam]

CBR600F mate, quality bike
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