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PostPosted: 01:34 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: £6k yamaha r125 seriously WTF ?!! Reply with quote
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2010/November/nov2710-motorcycle-live-yzf-r125/

a joke !
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PostPosted: 01:46 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
pointless 125....

arka exhaust ... means u cant use when your 17.... end of. and 6k.... yeah ok.... ill take 3. oh wait ill ho buy a r6 instead....
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PostPosted: 03:00 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
To clear things up.

That bike is not going to be produced, and it has only been made to show off different parts. Not exactly pointless from a manufacturer's point of view.

Also, the only reason for the 6 grand figure is so high is because you cannot buy the bike, and would have to pay for all the different modifications (including a 1200 quid paint job) separately.

The bike would not be sold for 6 grand because you don't add the cost of each part together and think that's what it's worth. For some reason though, some idiots on ebay who are trying to sell modified cars think this is the case. Rolling Eyes

It's not getting produced.

MCN full of shit as usual.
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PostPosted: 06:48 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
david_m213 wrote:
MCN full of shit as usual.


Not really, as it does say in the article it won't be made and is only a one off Confused

Strange really, but I have this gift that allows me to read.
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PostPosted: 07:04 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
ms51ves3 wrote:
david_m213 wrote:
MCN full of shit as usual.


Not really, as it does say in the article it won't be made and is only a one off Confused

Strange really, but I have this gift that allows me to read.


I was talking about the 6 grand figure.

I don't think that because a paintjob cost 1200 quid means you can just add that to the bike and say that's how much it's worth. That's where the "full of shit" comes from. I guess I just meant I didn't really like the article.

To me that's like me buying a brand new CBF125, getting it resprayed for 1200 quid and saying it's a 3.2k bike.
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Because it’s a one-off, unveiled to showcase accessories at Carole Nash Motorcycle Live, the only way to get one is to pay for everything separately, bringing the cost to £6072.


Nothing there suggests the bike is worth £6,000. It clearly says you would have to spend £6,000 to get that exact bike Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 07:32 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
ms51ves3 wrote:
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Because it’s a one-off, unveiled to showcase accessories at Carole Nash Motorcycle Live, the only way to get one is to pay for everything separately, bringing the cost to £6072.


Nothing there suggests the bike is worth £6,000. It clearly says you would have to spend £6,000 to get that exact bike Rolling Eyes


I just don't really get why they made a point of saying it costs 6k if you want it as the paint job makes up a decent chunk of that anyway.

Yes, to get that bike you would have to pay all that money for the modifications, but in my eyes it does not make it a "6k YZF125R".

It's more of an advert than an article.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Never mind £6K, who's paying £4K for the stock bikes? A Ninja 250R only costs £100 more.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Never mind £6K, who's paying £4K for the stock bikes? A Ninja 250R only costs £100 more.


17 year olds with too much mummy cash.

A 250 isn't much use to a 17 year old and anyone old enough to have a full licence is unlikely to want a 250 commuter with a sporty bodykit. A 250cc 'sports' bike in the uk is a crap choice, would sooner have a cb500.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
DonnyBrago wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Never mind £6K, who's paying £4K for the stock bikes? A Ninja 250R only costs £100 more.


17 year olds with too much mummy cash.

A 250 isn't much use to a 17 year old and anyone old enough to have a full licence is unlikely to want a 250 commuter with a sporty bodykit. A 250cc 'sports' bike in the uk is a crap choice, would sooner have a cb500.

Quite like the look of the bike but considering the fact it probably makes barely over the 15bhp limit with the new exhaust I wouldn't have it over my RXS. I don't entirely understand why people get such a new £4k bike to ride on CBT for a year or two at the very most...better to get a cheap commuter and then get yourself a sport bike later.

250 sport bikes are a good choice if you're 33bhp restricted. I believe the new Ninja 250 is just under that limit, and I'd have one if I had £3.2k to burn. As it stands I'm happy with my Bros, if I can get the damn thing to run right in this cold...think the choke is screwed.
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Welshd1k wrote:
pointless 125....

arka exhaust ... means u cant use when your 17......


Why cant you use it when your 17?..
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Blackwolf wrote:
Welshd1k wrote:
pointless 125....

arka exhaust ... means u cant use when your 17......


Why cant you use it when your 17?..

The bike is right on the 14.6bhp learner limit with the stock can. The new one almost certainly puts it over.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Most exhausts nowa days are pointless other than for sound.

and maybe 14.6 at the engine, but i doubt it would keep its full power for long. but fair enough.
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
david_m213 wrote:

I just don't really get why they made a point of saying it costs 6k if you want it as the paint job makes up a decent chunk of that anyway.

Because it's got people talking about an MCN article Smile.
Rogerborg wrote:
Never mind £6K, who's paying £4K for the stock bikes? A Ninja 250R only costs £100 more.

And a second hand GPZ250 costs £1k for a decent nick, so you'd have to be a fool to pay £4k I reckon!
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
david_m213 wrote:
but in my eyes it does not make it a "6k YZF125R".


But they aren't talking about it being "worth" that much. They're just noting that if you're enough of a knob to want that exact setup, you'll be £6k lighter. (Not that I’m too eager to defend MCN, they talk a load of cack)

I don't see the point in buying an r125, it looks sexy but whenever I see a new one riding around I just think "obviously either a spoilt rich kid or an older guy going through a midlife crisis who hasn't passed his proper test yet."

For the price of one of those you could get all your riding kit, a used 125, you could pass your DAS and put a chunky deposit on a new sport 600 if you were buying new, or outright buy a decent used example for 2 grand... probably with a bit left to spare .
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
DonnyBrago wrote:
A 250 isn't much use to a 17 year old


Until you pass your A2 test and get an A (restricted) license, which costs all of £121.50, plus access to a cheap used 125 which you can sell on for what you paid for it.

My point is: if you've got £4K in your pocket to spend on a bike, why on earth wouldn't you spend a bit to pass a test first, then get access to a much wider range of bikes?

The market for this seems to be yoof with loads of money who want a brand new fast / fast looking bike, but have no riding ability.

I guess there might be some eternal learners or hard core 125 zealots on A1 licenses who would make a rational choice to buy one, but it's got to be a very niche market.

Having the best 125 that money can buy is like dating the hottest chick from the Special School.
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
probaly never rode a 125?

never remember being 17 ?

havign a better bike that your mate was a big thing. who's was fastest etc... not liek datign a special needs girl.

not every one goes on to pass theri test instantly when they are 17. some like to get some experience on a 125 first ... i rode a 125 for 4 years.... and i enjoyed every moment of it even when i had a 400 id jump on the 125 for a ride...
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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havign a better bike that your mate was a big thing. who's was fastest etc... not liek datign a special needs girl.

He did say hottest special needs girl - so yes, about the same.

I remember being 17. I wish I'd done my licence straight away, rather than getting a 125. Even if it'd have been restricted (when I was 17 was just before it changed) and I stayed on a slightly cheaper 125 with a full licence, I'd have been better off doing that.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
£1200 paint job? The stock ones are better than that!
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Welshd1k wrote:
not every one goes on to pass theri test instantly when they are 17. some like to get some experience on a 125 first ...


Oh, sure, I agree. I loved riding my 125 for a year (kept it for laughs), I'm on a 250 now, and will be upgrading steadily. I'm not overly interested in speed or acceleration.

But we're not talking about me and thee. We're talking about someone who obviously does want a fast bike - just on the legal limit for L plates - and who has £4K to spend.

I honestly can't figure out why that person, Johnny Ragnuts, doesn't spend a bit of his £4K to do a test. Can anyone? Does anyone know anyone who bought a brand new YZF 125, and why? Confused
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
CHR15 wrote:
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never remember being 17 ?



i do, i had a 100bhp 600.




i still wouldnt mind a bright yellow mito though. one of the old ones with thin slitty lights.


Same, but alas, she has been restricted now.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:

But we're not talking about me and thee. We're talking about someone who obviously does want a fast bike - just on the legal limit for L plates - and who has £4K to spend.

I honestly can't figure out why that person, Johnny Ragnuts, doesn't spend a bit of his £4K to do a test. Can anyone? Does anyone know anyone who bought a brand new YZF 125, and why? Confused



I've got a 2010 R125. I got it 3 months old for 2.5k which I thought was a decent deal. I'm 22, riding it on my CBT. Got a 125 as I'm hoping to do my DAS in the spring time when the weather picks up, looked around at other 125's and decided I like the styling/size of the R125, I tried others but I'm quite big and looked rediculous..

I've got a decent enough job, it's not taking any money out of my test fee pot, just hopefully getting me some more experience and knowledge before I move on up. If I'd have waned a bike purely to look good and go fast (relatively) on a 125 I'd have gone for the Aprilia or awaited the KTM next year.

Also I'll be able to sell it on/trade it in, I'll lose money sure but it's not like I just chucked 2.5 down the gutter
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 30 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
biggelo wrote:
I don't entirely understand why people get such a new £4k bike to ride on CBT for a year or two at the very most...better to get a cheap commuter and then get yourself a sport bike later.

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