M6 Speed camera's

xlfive · Scooby Slapper Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Karma :

watch out folks the revenue collector is on the loose

The new electronic signs on the M6 were switched on this Tuesday.
The bad news is that they are rigged with the SPECS speed cameras. This probably applies to all the new signs being installed on the M62, M60 and M56.

SPECS > is a computer-camera based system.
As you go past the sign a digital camera reads your number plate.
When you go past the next sign your number plate is read again.
The computer 'knows' how far apart the signs are so it can work out your average speed between the two, or three or four.

The system is fully automatic and will issue a ticket without any form of human intervention.
It does this for every single vehicle that passes.You will not know you have been caught as the cameras don't flash.
They work 24/7, 365 days a year, and theoretically, there's absolutely no limit on the number of tickets that the system can issue.

The whole section of the M6 between Knutsford and Preston is wired, both ways. The system is set to trigger a ticket at 78MPH. (Don't take this as a guarantee)

Radar detectors will be of no use as SPECS is entirely passive, there is no laser beam to detect.
Be warned and spread the news!

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Almost certain that is a hoax. The wording is virtually identical to other hoaxes about other sections of motorways.

All the best

Keith
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Phoenix · Twisted Firestarter Joined: 01 Aug 2002 Karma :

yep already seen this posted on another forum, someone's bored and using these new display signs as an excuse to worry everyone about more speed cameras, it's not true. Also if you look at the back of the ones on the M4, theres nothing to them, nothing more than the display board and a video camera, wheras specs systems have a camera and two dish kinda things and generall more components to them.

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/faq/default.asp?Action=Q&ID=575 <- for the ones on the M4.

John · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Karma :

The signs sound good IMO. It says "Communications equipment embedded in the road monitors traffic flow and queuing traffic and automatically sets speed signs to show a lower speed limit preventing incidents. New CCTV will also help police monitor incidents and provide information to motorist about road conditions."

Does that mean they can tell if a car stops rapidly/crashes?

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Not only that, they can predict the accidents. Just flick on the signs and watch the accidents occur!

All the best

Keith
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kev · I Hump Things Joined: 07 Oct 2002 Karma :

I can tell you all one true thing about the M6, they are now charging a toll to go on it.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

No they're not

https://www.m6toll.co.uk

xlfive · Scooby Slapper Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Karma :

thanks for that folks this message was sent out by our company i was geting edgy as i use all the said motorways regular

carvell · Scuttler Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Karma :

They aren't going to charge an toll to go on the current M6 as it is.

They have built a new road, which they will charge people to travel on, I was up there the other day, it all looks good and ready to go. You'll still be able to travel on the M6 hassle free.

With a bit of luck most drivers will use the new toll road, so the current M6 will have less than half the traffic it has on it at the moment.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

flat spot · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Aug 2003 Karma :

I wouldn't be to sure about those cameras not going up. They already have them over the thelwall viaduct, but I have seen yellow gantry things being erected which hold the cameras elsewhere. They do however only put these up where there is likely to be roadworks. Which incidentally, is the whole of the M6. Confused

I'll be able to tell you tomorrow as I travel most of that section to Knutsford.

Hex · Party Boy Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

As said the email you got there is a hoax, howevere the M6 does have the SPECS system on it and active (least I believe it is).

As you ride/drive along you will see the SPECS cameras on the side of the road.

https://www.speedcheck.co.uk/images/cam1.jpg

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Zimma · Wheelie Junkie Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Those look like minigun's next to the cameras, do they shoot you if you are speeding? Mr. Green

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Phoenix · Twisted Firestarter Joined: 01 Aug 2002 Karma :

Well I haven't seen those SPECS cameras on the M6 near here, only temporary GATSOs at the traffic works eastbound from the A38(M) Jct 4 I think. Only place I've seen SPECS is Nottingham center.

Jimmy · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Karma :

I'm afraid it's true, they are real.

They were on last weeks 5th Gear, Vicki Butler Henderson was showing all the types of speed camera and these were the latest.

All you can see as you go under the gantry is a small CCTV type camera.
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flat spot · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Aug 2003 Karma :

Whereabouts though???

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

xlfive · Scooby Slapper Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Karma :

ah well to some its a hoax to others they are real i myself will be sticking to the speed limit when i see them as we all know thw fuzz will go to extraordinary lenths to top up the coffers as stated in a post by kickstart https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=21033 anyone who wishes to ignore them be it at your own peril

carvell · Scuttler Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Karma :

As G said, SPECS cameras do exist, and if you spot one, make sure you are within the speed limit.

The thing you originally posted about new cameras on the M6 set to 78mph has been going around for a while (variations of it anyway) and it is not true.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Fair enough... I do tend to be pretty paranoid myself a lot of the time.
However as the wording in this 'warning' is directly taken from a known hoax/virus email, it'd be nice if you didn't distribute it further... in the end you're just continuing the virus.

The trick is not to ignore them, but to decide which are true, if you headed every dodgy claimed camera you'd be doing 30 on all motorways, just incase Razz

... and to use your head when you're actually on the road... which in the end is the /really/ useful thing to do, cameras or no.

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

For a bit of possibly good news I just found this on a forum.

Annabella · Like a person, only smaller Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Slightly off topic.

Does anyone know how much the new toll will be for bikes? I know that it is £2 for cars and £4 for vans.

To be honest, for someone who has to pay £4.60 to go over 200 metres of bridge every time I go anywhere out of Cardiff I would quite willingly pay £2 not to have to sit on the UKs longest car park (although I did get paid overtime for the one day I was stuck on the M6, after having delivered ONE shaft to our B'ham site, for four hours).
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