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121game121
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Aprilia cuts out once put in gear. Reply with quote

Okay the bike starts fine now (changed get,battery, spark plug), idles fine, everything all good.
But once driven in gear it just dies out.
Once i put it in gear and release clutch it dies out.
Anyone know what the issue is?
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sidestand switch is not working or stuck closed?
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Marki"]Sidestand switch is not working or stuck closed?[/quote]


Nope sidestand working fine, switch for sidestand works too.
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

jump the sidestand switch and see if it still happens
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it continue to run if you put it in gear but hold the clutch lever in?
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yh it still runs if i hold the clutch in but in gear once released though slowly stars to die out.
I can ride it with the choke down in gear for a while then that dies out.
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

121game121 wrote:
Yh it still runs if i hold the clutch in but in gear once released though slowly stars to die out.
I can ride it with the choke down in gear for a while then that dies out.


Sounds logical unless you are revving it Laughing

You say it can run on choke but dies after a while? Let your bike warm up and check its idle speed, if I run my bike on choke to warm it up and forget to take it off, in 2 minutes when I hit a set of traffic lights it cuts out, choke isnt needed once its warm and will cause it to switch off.
Increase your idle speed or try giving it more revs as you let the clutch out.
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

TanacoiusD wrote:


He's asking for help here... on a common problem, don't try to get him to go elsewhere when we can help.

Definitely sounds like your sidestand switch, pull it apart and give it a good degreasing, all this road salt/crap will be clogging it up
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to be clear, does it cut out straight away or does to cut out slowly over a length of time?
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acemastr wrote:
Definitely sounds like your sidestand switch


Im kinda swaying against it as he said it stays running in gear if he holds the clutch in, popping into first with stand down would cut out right?
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you rev the bike while the clutch is pulled in and the bike is in gear?

Are you giving it enough revs while you slowly release the clutch?

Does it have a manual choke?

Are you warming it up before setting off?
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Acemastr wrote:
Definitely sounds like your sidestand switch


Im kinda swaying against it as he said it stays running in gear if he holds the clutch in, popping into first with stand down would cut out right?


It been some time since I did it but I thought at least one of my bikes lets you select the gear and only cut out when the clutch was released? I shall have to try.

TBF there isn't much detail to work on. I've noticed this quite a bit in workshop posts. People think your psychic when they post 'my bike won't start'. It takes about 20 posts and 101 questions before they mention that they had lost the key.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marki wrote:
[It been some time since I did it but I thought at least one of my bikes lets you select the gear and only cut out when the clutch was released? I shall have to try.

TBF there isn't much detail to work on. I've noticed this quite a bit in workshop posts. People think your psychic when they post 'my bike won't start'. It takes about 20 posts and 101 questions before they mention that they had lost the key.


1. My bandit cuts out as soon as I select first gear with the side stand down Thumbs Up

2. I agree, they need to elaborate on the problem. I am not a mind reader.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

He said it will 'ride' with the choke 'down' for a while then cut out. Im taking this to mean he can get the bike moving in gear with the choke on so that would rule out the usual sidestand problems.

If his bike won't run under load then theres a bigger problem!

Are we still assuming this is an RS125?
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
He said it will 'ride' with the choke 'down' for a while then cut out.


Good point, I didn't read that, I'm as bad as the rest of them Laughing

Having reread it all I also noticed that he appears to have changed the jet. Can we assume that the mixture isn't correct?

What was the original jet size, what is the new jet size, and why did you change it?
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay i checked the whole bike over once again, even changed the main jet to a bigger size.

The bike run perfectly fine in neutral, idles fine, revs fine.

But once gear is selcted and clutched realesed it dies.
How do i correct the sidestand issue anyone know, if it is that the problem?

Thanks
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="##Paddy##"][quote="121game121"][b]Yh it still runs if i hold the clutch in but in gear once released though slowly stars to die out.[/b]
I can ride it with the choke down in gear for a while then that dies out.[/quote]

Sounds logical unless you are revving it :lol:

You say it can run on choke but dies after a while? Let your bike warm up and check its idle speed, if I run my bike on choke to warm it up and forget to take it off, in 2 minutes when I hit a set of traffic lights it cuts out, choke isnt needed once its warm and will cause it to switch off.
Increase your idle speed or try giving it more revs as you let the clutch out.[/quote]



I have tried what you said, but no hope, warmed up the bike, idles fine in neutral, but as soon as i put it in gear and release clutch (witht he choke off) it dies even if i try rev it.
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A problem with the carb, as the mix ain't right.
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

121game121 wrote:
I can ride it with the choke down in gear for a while then that dies out.


Is this still the case?

If you can ride it while the choke is on then its not the sidestand. The choke creates a richer mixture which might indicate that you are still running lean.

You need to answer some of the questions before people can work out what is actually wrong.

Why did you change the jets?
What was the original size and what have you changed to?
Was the bike running before you changed the jets?
Have you done any other work to it?
How long are you leaving it to warm up?
What is the tickover RPM?
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Telling us what bike it is might help, or have i missed something? 50/125?
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 31 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best guess at the moment is that it is the RS125 that he brought
off ebay for £750 as a non-runner.

He has no knowledge of bikes since this is his first. It needs a compression check and the carb setting up correctly just for starters.

I fear the worst.
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 01 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Marki"][quote="121game121"]I can ride it with the choke down in gear for a while then that dies out.[/quote]

Is this still the case?

If you can ride it while the choke is on then its not the sidestand. The choke creates a richer mixture which might indicate that you are still running lean.

You need to answer some of the questions before people can work out what is actually wrong.

Why did you change the jets?
What was the original size and what have you changed to?
Was the bike running before you changed the jets?
Have you done any other work to it?
How long are you leaving it to warm up?
What is the tickover RPM?[/quote]



Its a Aprilia 125.
The previous jet size was 165. I changed it to a 120 because the previous was scummed up and was available at the time, but now changed it back to a 165 after cleaning it.
It drives on choke for a little while then dies.
I left the bike running in neutral for 10 mins todays (with choke off), it revs fine, throttle works, idles at 1100-1200.

The only thing i done was new battery (which it needed before i bought bike), spark plug change (ngk br9) and tightened up air box. Gona change speedo cable as speedo dont work though.

Im sure it must have good compression if it starts fine??
Once in gear and i release clutch just dies, confused!
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PostPosted: 01:19 - 01 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="rob yarrr"][quote="121game121"]

I have tried what you said, but no hope, warmed up the bike, idles fine in neutral, but as soon as i put it in gear and release clutch (witht he choke off) it dies even if i try rev it.[/quote]

lol my cg did this when the air filter was blocked[/quote]

Air filter looks clean and in good condition.
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