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UpcomingChris
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 30 Jan 2011    Post subject: CG125 Indicator problem (HELP) Reply with quote

Ok so, Not so long ago i had a spill, (Not my fault Razz)

Not alot of damage but the Right indicator smashed, So i bought a pair of 'Universal' indicators from Halfords, after being assured they would fit my bike, i had Lost the receipt a few days after purchasing them.

When it came to installing them, i took the Right indicator off, and the connections were different, the connection from the CG was like a Rectangle connection, and the connection from the New indicator was a Circle connection, But when i placed them together the indicators worked, they just don't fit each other properly, so i Taped them together with electrical tape and they worked ok, DId the same to the other one, and they were fine, But i have noticed, When i'm riding, when i press the Indicator switch there seems to be a 2 - 4 second delay until the indicators come on, Not a huge deal but a deal none the less.

Also it had not been for a good ride for about 2-3 weeks, due to the Terrible weather in wales.

Also when i indicate, WHen the indicators on all the lights on the 'Dash' dim, i'm no expert but that makes me think Maybe my battery is dying?, Could really use some help here.

- Chris


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PostPosted: 13:27 - 30 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

THanks for the reply, It's a 51 plate, I am going to have a look at it in a minute, will grap a pic or two, Also, any idea how i would find out how much charge it has?
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 30 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope mine is just a kickstart model
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 30 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't find my camera and i can't find a image on the web of the connection, But i cna try to explain, The connection on the OLD Indicator was basicly a Flat prong, that fit's inside a Rectangular / Flat Connector thing, it just Slides in,


Also someone sait it could be a Fuse?
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 30 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

UpcomingChris wrote:
THanks for the reply, It's a 51 plate, I am going to have a look at it in a minute, will grap a pic or two, Also, any idea how i would find out how much charge it has?


If yours is a 2001 model, then as far as I recall, it OUGHT to be a duel-start only model. Believe that they were kick only until 97, Duel-start, from '98 to 2004, e-start only since then.'square' connectors suggests lucar spade terminals, which the Japs dont use as OE equipment on looms, they use the 'round' ones which I suspect are 'bullet' connectors.

These two facts, suggest that your bike isn't standard, and has been buggered about with.

Lets start by checking frame and engine numbers against the log-book, to begin with.

Kick-start only could mean that the e-starts packed up and rather than fix it, previouse owner has simply removed it. Alternatively a siezed engine has been replaced with a replacement from earlier bike. OR that a stolen bike has been 'ringed' on the registration of one thats been smashed or siezed. Hence check the log-book and all numbers.

Next check teh switches. Does it have a button for an e-start? If so, then e-starts been removed, or engine swapped.

Early CG's were kick-start only, had six volt electrics, and points ignition. They were variousely up-dated, and gained 12v electrics, and CDi ignition.

Pottential mix and match mongralisation is pretty extensive, and you need to know what you SHOULD have, what you actually have, and where its not quite as it should be.

So far lack of e-start and the wrong connectors on the indicators are all teh known differences we have to work on, but enough to demand investigation.

First of all, the indicator connections need sorting 'properly' and I'd reccomend snipping the spade connectors off the loom and fitting bullet terminations. 'Twist and tape' connectiosn DO NOT bode well for long term reliability!

Next, flash 'lag' three imediete possibilities. Weak battery is one of them. Tired flasher unit is next. But the third is, that your bike has six volt electrics, and you have fitted indicators with 12v bulbs in them.
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 30 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
UpcomingChris wrote:
THanks for the reply, It's a 51 plate, I am going to have a look at it in a minute, will grap a pic or two, Also, any idea how i would find out how much charge it has?


If yours is a 2001 model, then as far as I recall, it OUGHT to be a duel-start only model. Believe that they were kick only until 97, Duel-start, from '98 to 2004, e-start only since then.'square' connectors suggests lucar spade terminals, which the Japs dont use as OE equipment on looms, they use the 'round' ones which I suspect are 'bullet' connectors.

These two facts, suggest that your bike isn't standard, and has been buggered about with.

Lets start by checking frame and engine numbers against the log-book, to begin with.

Kick-start only could mean that the e-starts packed up and rather than fix it, previouse owner has simply removed it. Alternatively a siezed engine has been replaced with a replacement from earlier bike. OR that a stolen bike has been 'ringed' on the registration of one thats been smashed or siezed. Hence check the log-book and all numbers.

Next check teh switches. Does it have a button for an e-start? If so, then e-starts been removed, or engine swapped.

Early CG's were kick-start only, had six volt electrics, and points ignition. They were variousely up-dated, and gained 12v electrics, and CDi ignition.

Pottential mix and match mongralisation is pretty extensive, and you need to know what you SHOULD have, what you actually have, and where its not quite as it should be.

So far lack of e-start and the wrong connectors on the indicators are all teh known differences we have to work on, but enough to demand investigation.

First of all, the indicator connections need sorting 'properly' and I'd reccomend snipping the spade connectors off the loom and fitting bullet terminations. 'Twist and tape' connectiosn DO NOT bode well for long term reliability!

Next, flash 'lag' three imediete possibilities. Weak battery is one of them. Tired flasher unit is next. But the third is, that your bike has six volt electrics, and you have fitted indicators with 12v bulbs in them.



Thanks for the information!, I sure will investigate this, Also, THe bike was imported from ireland if that makes any difference, I will go through the documnentation and have a look what's what



Also, it does not have a button for the E-start, or no evidence of one ever being attatched
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 30 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, So i tried working the indicators with just the ignition on, and it Start's normal, with e Very slight delay on the Left indicator only if i remember correctly.

And with the ignition off, they worked fine for a few minutes, and then While on they started getting faster, and faster, and all of a sudden went Really fast and then stopped a short while afterwards, and when i try them again they Start off very fast, but when the enging in running and after a little ride there fine again, Batery problem?


EDIT: I am looking in Halfords for Bullet connectors, to fix the connection, I can see 8 amp and 15 amp, Does anyone know what ones i need?


- Chris
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