Silencer or Full System

Couger · Trackday Trickster Joined: 01 May 2002 Karma :

Hiya all,

Im looking to get a new can for my R6 as the standard one is starting to make the bike look a bit...standard! Razz

The question is do I opt for a full system or just a can? Now as the R6 is still restricted performance is not of great importance. Now this almost completely rules out the full system, but I am under the impression they look better as they have better angles, or is this just something im seeing? Also would the full system be better for the bike?

Any reccomendations would be very welcomed.
Cougs.
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McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

Can only = £200ish.

Full system = £500ish.

Go figure.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Couger · Trackday Trickster Joined: 01 May 2002 Karma :

Cheers guys,

Im looking to do some track days at Castle Coombe as soon as they kick off next year, I just wanted to get a can because I fancy one and would like a nicer sound to the R6.

Cougs.
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

blue flame and scorpion and micron do high level can kits with a modified link pipe..

mmmmm blue flame
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Note that you'll have to put the standard can back on for Castle Coombe.. road legal noise limits only unfortunately Sad

. Also they've got a weird system with only fifteen people on track at once or something Confused

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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Think most systems will run absolutly pants, and have low top end speeds if the bike isn't rejetted to suit, and usually the carbs balanced as well.

My ZXR is running fairly badly at the minute at the top end, it's got a full micron system, but running standard jets Rolling Eyes

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Couger · Trackday Trickster Joined: 01 May 2002 Karma :

Cool, I'll probably just go for a can, I don't want a high level one that sits by the side of the pillion seat, they are a bit too tarty and cliche for my liking.

Anyway, I didnt realise Castle Coombe was as strict as that G, however I had heard their on track limit was as low as ten!

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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

You got any pictures of your R6 cougs?
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Couger · Trackday Trickster Joined: 01 May 2002 Karma :

Yams,

Yeah I do, only crap ones like, hoping to get some better ones staged this weekend haha. I was going to post a few but dont know how to get them uploaded, any ideas?

By the way just incase any one knows, does dusty havy any spares or "extras" for his R6 at all? Id be interested to know what he has and what he would be willing to let go as singles.

Cougs.
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Cougs click the "add attachements" button just under the reply box when writing a new message Smile

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PsychoHippy · Jammy Git Joined: 02 Jul 2002 Karma :

G is absolutely right (as always), they are strick about the noise levels at Castle Coombe - something to do with how close it is to the village Confused

Still, if you do decide to go up there, let me know and I'll pop over and encourage/photograph you, because it's only 3 or 4 miles from my house Very Happy

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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Race can = piss of the neighbours and have bugger all extra power (although it might screw up the bottom end power so that it feels better at the top end).

Full system = piss of the neighbours and maybe have some more power if it is set up correctly.

Cynically yours

Keith
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

As long as it pisses off the neighbours then thats all you need!
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I would have aso suggested another mod like down gearing, better tyres, braided hoses, etc, etc.

However when I had the ZX6 I stuck the Art can on to see if it made a difference, and told my self I'd stick the normal one back on.... to start with I'd rather not alert 'certain' people (who may have radar guns close by) to the fact that I was approaching at high speed. The original only ever stayed of for a short time though because I just liked the sound too much Smile

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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

There are good and bad points to race cans, but I never thought I'd hear many people arguing that they aren't good or anything though.

Fair play to you, I've just fitted my road legal micron too but mainly for performance purposes (wasnt rejetted, long story lol)
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Dusty · King of the Rim Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Karma :

tyyak · Derestricted Danger Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Karma :

Most slip on cans give roughly the same performance gains. while full systems can deliver double the increase, but really make a difference if you change the filter and go for a power commander. this will cost around 800 quid all in so its a good option if youre minted. 800 quid will also get you a great trip round france in the summer !!!!!!!
Devil do a mean high level , either single or twin stacked cans, slip on if its looks you want.
depends how well your boss lines your pockets every week really !!!!! Razz

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tyyak · Derestricted Danger Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Karma :

you can get a race can from around 110 quid and a decent road legal from 165 ish including the link pipe. if ya want 1 lob me an e mail on my website
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

I wouldn never fit a race can/system to my bike for power gain purposes. I can't ride the thing to it's limits anyway so more power is wasted. Most people fit race cans for 1) the soujnd and 2) the looks

That's just my opinion though, there may be people who do care about the power gains.

My bike has had a full Micron system without a rejet and because of that it seems to be runnig very lean and doesn't want to go past 80 mph?? It was also misfiing/spluttering and sounded very choked.

So I fitted the road legal micron, the spluttering has stopped and the revs are a lot better, but it still won't go psat 80mph ish! I think it's because the carbs still aren't set up right
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Probably needs setting up correctly. Can you get it past 80 by revving it out hard in the lower gears? Is it just a large flat spot caused by the system.

My only real experience of a Micron 4 stroke system was on the old FZ750. On these they are known for causing a really bad flat spot between 3000 and 4000rpm.

All the best

Keith
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

when caning it up the gears it'll go up to about 90mph, then if i try and hold the speed it gradually drops until the throttle is pinned in 3rd/4th doing 65ish! fucking annoying
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Couger · Trackday Trickster Joined: 01 May 2002 Karma :

Dusty,

Had fun reading that little list! My bike has a full set of Renthal chain and sprockets as it is so Im not after anything like that. However I would be interested in the black lowers if they are in good nick and ive been searching for a decent single seat unit for ages, but have had problems deciding if it would fit with everything I intend to do, so id deffo take that, you got any more info on it?

Cheers
Cougs.
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