Got me a now deaded car.

[st3v3]

It's a blue P reg (96/97) 106. I found it on Ebay without T+T, cost me £126 and was about 30miles away. (total spent on it, whatever for = £144)

Went, got it and brought it home - no inspections as such (like Jay with the KTM ) but after getting a few respected opinions and looking under, around in it....

It's like new. It's a '96 and the faults are:

Needs new interior panel, probably new drivers door.
Needs N/S CV boot circlipping up, old one came off and it leaks.
Anti-Roll bar bushes are starting to show signs of wear but il sort it anyway. (apparently not enough for a fail or real advisory)
New door trim
Maybe new drivers seat, this one creaks about.
144,671 is on clock, but speedo(an maybe mile-ometer) is iffy I don't trust it til I get it replaced. (going round corners has speedo reading upto 80mph and the needle is sometimes all over the place
No real history or anything, but insurance didn't give any issues when I asked to swap cover but did increase premium by £80....

I was worried it weas Deisel, the previous Fiesta was petrol and went some for a 1.1 - this is a 1.5.

It sounds like an old tractor but I'm told it sounds healthy for an oldish diesel (i know my cars but not too hot on engines conditions)
Went to a car cruis thing tonight and there were a few there that were tastefully modded. I'm not going to with this but it's made me want to keep it.

Thoughts on my handywork?

Before:

https://i.ebayimg.com/19/!BuqDr)gBWk~$(KGrHqIOKkIEvOEh1-4hBMBRCFh3!Q~~_12.JPG

After:

https://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2872/door2.jpg

Did this by using a 'big hammer' (steel headed thing) and a chunk of wood, tapping the edge roud so it didn't scuff the wing making a "clunk" noise and then used wood tapped from inside of door to knock most of it out. I couldn't do near the XL sign because the runners for the window were in the way. I do plan to have a bash later tho when I've more time and see if I can make it better. Then I need to put as much effort into my bike and it'll be right in no time

https://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2739/door1t.jpg

Just need to use some touch up on the metal, got some nail varnish today.

Rest of it:

https://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7088/pug1n.jpg

https://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8818/pug2a.jpg


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Roger wrote: Women don't get damp for clingy puppies. Get some better happy pills, hit the gym & buy a medallion the size of a dinner plate. Job done

[WildGoose]

Looks and sounds like a real piece of shit. To be honest. The 106/Saxo of that generation is already a piece of shit before it gets worn out.

I guess for £150 you can't go wrong for transport, but I would advise not spending anything on it, see what happens with the MOT.

If it fails, weigh the fucker in, you will probably get most of your money back.
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[st3v3]

That weren't quite the response I could hope for.
(I actually don't understand that - since the pics show how immaculate it is, overall)

Taken on board mind, although that is the only bad feedback I've had.

It's a 14 year old car, no rust, no weaknesses and the underneath is only mucky/dusty from dry storage. It's in far better condition than many of the newer cars owned by people here. Infact I've been told by people in the trade that if I keep ontop of servicing etc and keep it tidy, it'll do me for about 10years.

I'm quite chuffed tbh.
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Roger wrote: Women don't get damp for clingy puppies. Get some better happy pills, hit the gym & buy a medallion the size of a dinner plate. Job done

[Robby]

I can always rely on you to be an idiot. Reading your words always causes a constant facepalm. Nuggets from that post:

[swiftb]

[lukamon]

avoiding the abuse in this thread, im going to say one of my mates had this as a first car, he bought it with 120,000 and sold it with 150. quite solid cars actually, however, just dont crash them., oh, and watch out for the rear axle, the wheels eventually camber rather massively inwards if its on its way out
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[FURBAR]

Steve, your littler world gets stranger and stranger ... by the day ..
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Fuk um !!

[_Will_]

Tbh, its a complete crapbox.
The 20 year old 205 i bought was in better condition than that.
If i were you i would find anything in tact, ebay for spares n repairs then scap the bastard and take someone with you next time.
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[Paxovasa]

I think you were robbed
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[st3v3]

So, - because I went to some car gathering I'm going to mod it?

Where did I say that? I said a few were tastefully done - so I may keep it, I was considering getting rid.

Yeah I slipped, and touched the wing but well I've never attempted anythig like this before and tbh I'm pretty damn proud of myself. it was a job I really could have made much worse but well, the door shuts properly now and doesn't make any noises or catch so to me, that's an improvement.


Btw, I don't act like i'm 16, Iv 'always' been into the car scene (since about literally 12yo) and having this cheap runabout won't suddenly make me want to get all cool and cover it in tacky 'mods'.

I've seen and driven a few newer cars which have been in far worse condition, how will this need more looking after? (I've never heard of anyone finding an almost immaculate set of wheels for less than £130) I really don't get how it's such a shitbox - a couple qualified mechanics have told me it's a keeper. These are one's I dont use either, so are impartial.
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Roger wrote: Women don't get damp for clingy puppies. Get some better happy pills, hit the gym & buy a medallion the size of a dinner plate. Job done

[Stelmer]

My brother had a 106 Quicksilver and "chavified" it.....

Howevever, we used the XLD as a collectors car at work for years. They wear out quickly if abused and don't crash well.

The engines are ok and being pre-HDi, I think they are better. Other than that, it's a cheap banger so don't waste too much cash on it. There will be a reaslon why it was sold so cheap.

[MarJay]

Slow diesel french shitbox. Pre 'good' diesel engines. Heavy, slow and unreliable.

Keep it until the MOT and don't be surprised if it fails.
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[FURBAR]

Name those mechanics so we can avoid the fuckers !!!
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Fuk um !!

[_Will_]

Well tax and mot could hit you hard so wont be as cheap, being honest here - i wouldnt say bargain.

That 205, had 150k, a few months mot an tax, cosmetically not a blemish and i scrapped it by mot time, cost me £200 wouldnt have been worth trying to put it through another.
You ask opinions, on a vehicle enthusiast forum you get honest answers
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[ms51ves3]

[Faldo]

Well, I'll buck the trend here.

My old man had 3 Pug 106 1.5 Diesels (and an earlier 1.4 which was terrible), and used them for national delivery work.

Between the 3 of them he covered over 750k and only got through 1 engine and 2 gearboxes. All French gearboxes are notoriously crap, so that ain't bad at all. Other than that, he barely maintained them and they never missed a beat.

As for all this pre-HDi bashing. Yes it's true the common rail engines are much better in terms of performance and noise levels, but for reliability you can't knock an old fashioned mechanical diesel injection system. Pumps are more reliable, injectors don't get blocked anywhere near as easily as C/R injectors and there's no sensors or OTT electricky to worry about, and they still run without a battery. The added bonus is that they fare much better when run on cooking oil than common rails too.

It is what it is, a cheap runabout, which if you don't kick the fuck out of it will probably serve you well. They ain't quick, they ain't fun, they ain't 'bling', but it will get you from A to B and you should be able to get 60MPG out of it too. You will also beef up your biceps too, as the non PAS models have the heaviest steering of any car I've driven .

Not the deal of the century, but certainly not as bad as some are making out.

[Blau Zedong]

[Harold_Shand]

You might get lucky, you might not, but seriously it's worth listening to the advice on here. Anything may go at any time, but if you like it, stick £500 aside for repairs or to buy another car and keep this £500 topped up.

If it was me, I wouldn't spend any money on cosmetics, save your money for when it doesn't turn over. Buying a new seat and worrying about dents in a car of that value, very, very simply is in no way worth the time, money and inconvinience.

Do join the AA, through your insurance company is often cheaper, the battery may have been in for 8 years, or on the original alternator or whatever. You can get away with very cheap motoring but you need to be prepared and be realistic.
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

[st3v3]

Well, I understand the warnings.

I will also bear it in mind, my next car I plan to be an MR2 but not for a while.

This, apparently will fly through an MOT - as said, it's virtually been stored/farm used from new by the looks of it underneath,. caked in dust and not a spoit of rust anywhere.

I've spent today fitting some new bits from the scrappers and now it's better than it was, which for the car was pretty damn good.

I do not intend tarting it up, it is a mint bargain stepping stone til I find that glorious MR2. Btw, you think this is bad..... you should have seen the fiestaI just got shut of.

(place I went to; U-Pull-It have a same spec one in that's written off for a 'donor car only' and is priced at £200.)

[benjami]

145k miles... and farm use only.

Yes, that's probably it.

[_Will_]

Something called damage limitation, sometimes you just know when something is a moneypit - when sold without tax nor mot what you have got yourself into is an unknown entity, which could end up costing you more than it was worth.
Bloke at work has replaced so much on his 10 year old saxo he could have bought something nice, and t'other halfs niece-in-law was handed an old fiesta (circa erm 98 i think) with spaceship mileage found by someone who supposedly knew a bit about cars, as soon as she told me about it and how much it cost i picked myself up from the floor and advised she'd been had, sure enough 2 weeks later the gearbox went

As for the 205, i liked the little car don't get me wrong, i just didn't bother spending any on it as the amount i would have probably shelled out just wasn't worth it.
Nothing to do with high standards, the following car was a bloody suzuki alto for christ sake.
I do however like value for money, take our cars at the moment, both are in my name and i have the choice of a 2005 honda accord and a 1999 passat - the latter is more reliable, better condition and more of a pleasure to drive.

That was nearer to what i'd call a bargain, 1999 79k 6mnths tax and year mot, what i'd call good condition (i'll get some pics if you want) and cost me £1200, the ins just £390.

I have owned a fair few cars n bikes, my dad buys fixes n sells - so between us we can see if its worth it or not, we have contacts and can do things on the cheap but even he'd take a wide birth on that, there'd be no money it whasoever.

Listen to the advice, do not spend a penny on cosmetics, as little as possible to get it through as if it doesn't need too much it may do as a temp runaround.


Oh, the 205 -
https://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u247/vee88photo/2056.jpg
https://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u247/vee88photo/2058.jpg
https://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u247/vee88photo/2057.jpg
https://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u247/vee88photo/2055.jpg
https://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u247/vee88photo/2053.jpg
https://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u247/vee88photo/2052.jpg

£200 T&T inc lasted me about 5 months

Edit: oh and it were 170k actually, the engines are not the issue, its everything else.
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[JonB]

The interior on that 205 is pristine as well. Good stuff.
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[st3v3]

Sure I remember you posting the 205 when it arrived?
And tbh, the bodies not much better than this 106, the rear of the drivers door there has a crease as bad as what these have taken piss of with mine.

Come MOT il see if it lives upto expectations, and if it does then il spend while it gives me reason to, and il probs just get rid of the first costly hurdle.
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Roger wrote: Women don't get damp for clingy puppies. Get some better happy pills, hit the gym & buy a medallion the size of a dinner plate. Job done

[swiftb]

[st3v3]