legal advice needed

[Teaman]

at work there is a guy who due to his vastness. Lets say gravitationally challenged or plain fat bastard. When he goes for a piss he leaves the cubical in a mess. Piss and metal shavings all over the seat and piss all over the floor. Never washes after but thats by the by. Every one knows its him and its brought up in meetings that could whoever is doing it please stop. He either doesn't know he's doing it or more likely doesn't care. His work station is a mess and he smells. The guy is about 35 stone plus. How can my employer dissaplin him without leaving them selfs in the shit. Thanks
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[iooi]

Make the cubicle smaller and then add a squat pot for him
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[Skudd]

His manager/supervisor needs to grow a pair and have a proper chat with him. Tell him where he is going wrong, what he needs to do to correct the issue, what action can be taken if things do not improve.
I've had to tell many people about their hygiene issues, both male and female. it isn't easy, it is uncomfortable for everyone involved, but it can and usually does, sort things out.
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[GhostRider]

Thats a legal issue????


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[MarkJ]

Being in the wrong for firing someone for just "being fat" would be a legal issue.

H&S laws certainly seem like a good avenue to explore.

[stinkwheel]

Best advice?

Do absolutely everything according to the employee handbook. Witness and minute any meetings or verbal warnings, record EVERYTHING (including if you had an informal chat about it).

If it is a unionised workforce, have a chat with the union rep and formulate an accepted written policy for dealing with employees exhibiting poor personal hygeine.

Employment law is a minefield and it's almost all in favour of the employee. Tke legal advice in the early stages of proceedings so you know you've done everything by the book.

If you have clear, written procedures in place and keep comprehensive and accurate records, you'll save yourself a lot of grief. It doesn't prevent unfair/constructive dismissal tribunals but it makes them possible to defend effectively.

Alternatively, if you want rid of him, wait for him to go in the machine shop without safety glasses on. That's a written warning. Do it three times and you're out. That's a winner because if he's a fat lazy slob, he's bound to do so and nobody can have much of a comeback about disciplinary action taken due to failure to obey statuatory safety regulations.
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[Teaman]

We dont want rid of him although he is a fat lazy b'stard.
he does his job ok.

The toilet thing is a obvious H&S thing but its the "Prove its me" senario. thats really the dylemma. how to dissaplin him with that....
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There is no point in ranting about someone stupid because there is nothing u can do about it. There is no cure for stupid.
Someone stupid does not realise they r stupid.stupidity is indistinguishable from malice U just have to accept that some people are thick as p1gsh1t and work around them.

[stinkwheel]

You could try leaving an anonymous passive-agressive note on the wall of the cubicle?

"Dave, We're all fucking fed up of wading through your piss every time we want to use the toilet. If you can't see to hit the bowl, just sit down and do it. "
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.