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PostPosted: 23:35 - 19 Jan 2011    Post subject: before starting laid up bikes Reply with quote

guys,i have a couple of YBR125's and a bandit 600 which have been unused for the past three months and i plan to start them up Friday.How should i prepare them before starting them up as i want to be as gentle on them as possibile
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 20 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all place the key in the ignition and click into "on" position, next ensure the bike is in neutral, finally press the ignition button and apply a small amount of throttle, your bike is now running.

N.B. You will need to pull in the clutch to start the Suzuki



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3 months isn't all that long, I would just start them up and go for a spin personally.
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PostPosted: 01:53 - 20 Jan 2011    Post subject: Re: before starting laid up bikes Reply with quote

sparkywilliams wrote:
guys,i have a couple of YBR125's and a bandit 600 which have been unused for the past three months and i plan to start them up Friday.How should i prepare them before starting them up as i want to be as gentle on them as possibile
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Personally, charge the battery.
And YBR, change the oil most likely (if it's anything like a CG it's supposed to be changed every 3 months and i bet you didn't change it immediately before laying it up). Bandit, probably wouldn't bother.

And check the tyre pressures and lube the chain (in fact a full POWDER check) before riding Thumbs Up

It hasn't been long enough for me to think about fresh petrol, condensation/water in the tank etc.
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PostPosted: 02:09 - 20 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

should be fine provided batterys arent dead Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:40 - 20 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had holidays longer than that 'lay-up'!
Admittedly, if I had parked something in the long-stay at an air-port, after that long, I might expect to have to find a kind person to give me a jump-start, but that's about it!
Just do your normal pre-ride checks!
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PostPosted: 07:51 - 20 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mike said...........

I work away for 4 months at a time and never do anything to my bikes except plug in the optimate.

Check the fluid levels and press the tit Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 20 Jan 2011    Post subject: Re: before starting laid up bikes Reply with quote

Ingah wrote:

And YBR, change the oil most likely (if it's anything like a CG it's supposed to be changed every 3 months and i bet you didn't change it immediately before laying it up). Bandit, probably wouldn't bother.


thats probably 3 months use, not 3 months sitting there not being used.

I started up a bike that hadn't been moved for about 6 months. Just popped choke on, connected car battery and cranked it... took a good 10 secs of cranking it over to fire up but was fine. Just do quick checks on oil levels and tyres before hand.
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks,i was thinking more about preventing any possible damage to the piston heads due to them being dry.i read somewhere you should take out plug and put a bit of oil down there.
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not after 3 months. Mine sat for 12 months and all it got was jump leads, air in the tyres and some oil on the chain. Still going strong 8 years later (I have, of course, serviced it etc in the mean time).
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 21 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sparkywilliams wrote:
thanks,i was thinking more about preventing any possible damage to the piston heads due to them being dry.i read somewhere you should take out plug and put a bit of oil down there.


Thats usually if they have been sitting for long periods of time. 3 months will be fine Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:56 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brakes might be seized, before you go daft make sure they work. Also check the chain for tight spots and give it some TLC Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 22 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just fire em up. My K7 was sat for 3 months. Fired up the other day no probs - battery still strong as an ox , I dont use any chargers or optimate etc. Just sat in the cold garage - my old ZX6R was the same had that 2 yrs, got left for 3/4 month periods, still fired up no bother.
What this thread has brought to my attention though is the fact I forgot to brim my tank when I laid the bike up. (its on the reserve light) My garage is a sod for damp/condensation - hope I aint got any rust/water/moisture in there.

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PostPosted: 10:57 - 23 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bandit tries to start and I can hear it blowing as though it has good compression but it just won't fire up!
Battery has been charged and sounds v healthy, tank is full and is on prime.
Can someone suggest the first steps to diagnose?
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 23 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it try to catch, are was it just turning over?

Check the plugs Thumbs Up

Try spraying some easy start or WD40 through the airbox.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 23 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

turning over and feels like it may be trying to spark but i think its best i get the plugs out and possibly replace.its done nearly 30k and ive had it year,i bet they haven't been changed for ages.
When it was running fine last summer it would be a bugger to start,and would lose power as thou it was out of fuel and then id stop,open the tank to check i wasn't going mad,mess around with the fuel tap,then she would start again.ive read very similar probs,its a carb model so i reckon i could do with learning how to clean it out and give the bike a full once over.
I have the haynes manual,and other mech books so i'll be fine.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 23 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year when you were having trouble, When you opened the petrol tank was it sucking in air?
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 24 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like your tank breather is blocked dude. Try starting it with the tank flap open...
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 24 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll try that,is that safe to do?
Im getting some NGKcr9ek's from halfords and will replace them anyway.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 24 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode my bike for the first time in a couple of months this morning. Brake was binding a bit, but sorted itself after a few hard stops to get some heat into it. Chain was a bit noisy for the first hundred yards til it pulled itself straight, and it ran a bit rough for the first couple of miles.

Don't go over it trying to do lots of recommissioning, you've got more chance of breaking something else if you pop off a valve cover to squirt in some oil or something.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 24 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just start them up, keep revvs at >2k<3k. from the off for at least 20 seconds, this will pump the oil where it needs to be.

Some people have a tendency to start it and let it idle or rev its nuts - neither are as good an idea as the 2-3k Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 24 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just start it. If the battery's flat, find a hill and bump start it..
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 24 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Just start it. If the battery's flat, find a hill and bump start it..


+1.

Got my dads bike out yesterday after it just had been sitting for 4 months. Didn't even charge the battery, just hit the starter and it fired straight up!
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 26 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you guys say 'Crank it' do you just jump start it like you would a car,i.e. i guess i leave the bike battery connected,attach the crocs,and keep pressing the starter button till she fires?
i was concerned that the constant electric into the bike would cause problems.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 26 Jan 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sparkywilliams wrote:
When you guys say 'Crank it' do you just jump start it like you would a car,i.e. i guess i leave the bike battery connected,attach the crocs,and keep pressing the starter button till she fires?
i was concerned that the constant electric into the bike would cause problems.


'Cranking' is the term used to describe an engine being turned over by the starter motor and not by its own means (running). I.E, when you hit the start button the bike is cranking until it fires up.

Hope that makes sense.
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