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 Posted: 12:18 - 02 Mar 2011 Post subject: How the f***? (Critical condition suzuki) |
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Rode about 45 miles to birmingham yesterday on the GN250 using the M54 and M6. Bike was on top form, even managed 92mph tailgating a bright yellow Transit, pissed about in birmingham with my mate for about 2 hours on the bike, then had dinner at his then went to go home. Filled up with petrol, sat on my bike, start her up and the engine is making a slight ticker-ticker-ticker noise that was coming from the engine, it got faster as the revs went up. There were no extra vibrations and even my friend could hear it... we laughed and joked about how it wouldnt get me back home and GUESS WHAT HAPPENED!!!
Tailgating a lorry at 55mph for super-mega fuel economy the bike died for a second like it was running out of fuel, and at this point I had my earphones in so I couldnt hear SHIT... then it went fine again... cue a minute later, bike cut out again, THEN rev counter dropped immidiately to 0, and I mean immediately and the back wheel locks up... cue me skidding in a straight line for a second and a half then the engine come back to life, but on its last legs... full throttle I was losing speed about 5mph per second so I pulled into the hard shoulder and the engine conked out straight away... helmet off, headphones out, press starter, Fuck all. Lights bright, indicator is working. Engine had siezed solidafter half hour, managed to get her started but DAMN she sounded nasty... very rattly, almost like the tappets were way out of adjustment, Check the oil level, I had to tilt the bike a good 20degrees to the side of the sight to even see anything but the thing is, the bike hasnt been leaking oil, she doesnt smoke at all... So guys, I ask you, WHAT THE FUCK?! I daren't touch the bike it sounds that nasty ____________________ My bike? A YX140 powered one-off Monkey Bike, something a little different! |
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If you had to tip the bike on its side to see oil through the sight glass then you don't have enough oil. I highly doubt its anything to do with the oil pump.
The tappy noise is a worn top end from oil starvation.
I doubt you'll be able to rescue it tbh. Fill it with oil and see what happens.
Not the news you wanted, but the damamge from oil starvation can never be repaired without new parts I'm affraid. ____________________ CBT Passed: 30/08/2009, Theory Passed: 31/08/2010, Mod 1 Passed: 6/9/2010, Mod 2 Passed: 13/09/2010. Restriction ended 13/09/2012.
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can't see why,the problem was it had no oil to pump  ____________________ '00 Aprilia RS50 > '92 Honda CG > '99 Yamaha Fazer > '91 Yamaha RXS > '79 Suzuki X5 > 01' Honda Cg > 07' Honda Cg > 82' Kawasaki Z200 > suzuki gsxr 400 gk73a > honda vfr 400 NC30 Mod 2 Passed 09/06/2011
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You say you were doing 90+ on the way to birmingham, how long were you doing that speed for? perhaps your bike does burn a little oil, but the extended high speed riding pushed it over the edge???
Also, thats good going getting 90 outta 250! I'm lucky if i get past 80 on my 350  ____________________ First bike: 1982 Suzuki Gs 125 'The beast MK1' > 1988 Honda Cb 350's' FOR SPORT! (Good ol' oil burner!) > 2001 Suzuki Sv 650 's' Made it out of the 80's! > 1997 Honda Cbr 600f :p |
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I think one of your tappet adjusters has come undone, and been dancing around in the head. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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 Posted: 13:55 - 02 Mar 2011 Post subject: Re: How the f***? (Critical condition suzuki) |
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| spannermonkey91 wrote: | Bike was on top form, even managed 92mph tailgating a bright yellow Transit, |
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| Quote: | Engine had siezed solidafter half hour, managed to get her started but DAMN she sounded nasty... very rattly, almost like the tappets were way out of adjustment, Check the oil level, I had to tilt the bike a good 20degrees to the side of the sight to even see anything |
What happened here is, you thrashed the absolute knackers off your bike by riding at a speed it was never designed to go at. This caused it to eat its own engine.
It was probably drinking oil at a fantastic rate as the rings and piston skirts were busy trying to smear themselves against the bore. You don't always see it as smoke.
It's a well recognised problem. Happens a lot, particularly with small capacity, aircooled bikes. My Fiancee's done it twice to a GPz305. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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| spannermonkey91 wrote: | Sorry, just frantically looking for something to blame, |
Try a mirror.... all will be revealed!
Trashing a bike for 70 miles along a motorway flat out, slip streaming a transit, pushing the limits up, and holding them there like riding down a really long steep hill above normal top speed for HOW LONG!?!
Do you REALLY need to look much further for the REAL cause of failure here?!
| spannermonkey91 wrote: | cause a full engine of oil doesnt just disappear in a week and a half |
So, you didn't check the oil before your long journey to Brumbleton?
You heard nasty noises, when you went to wend your way back from the confudled city..... but STILL didn't check the oil?
You thrashed it there mercilessly.
You thrashed it back...
But HEY, in 200 miles of THRASHING you are perplexted that it MIGHT have consumed what LITTLE oil MIGHT have been left since you last checked it?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Come on, matey!
Man up... you were a tit, and didn't check the oil! Then thrashed it on a long journey, STILL without checking the oil, so why wonder why it siezed, and why look for spuriouse components in the engine to 'blame'..... cause was..... you were a bit of a tit and didn't check the oil! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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I did pretty much the same thing with my CB125 going down a steep hill at 80  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 7 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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