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C-Pk
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Considering a change of bike Reply with quote

Hi everyone

I'm relatively new to biking. Only recently passed in August. However I am getting a little bit too interested in something faster.

I currently ride a SV650. I have been tempted by the Honda CBR600F.

Anyone any advice or experience with this machine?
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T0MMY
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better in just about every way than your SV. Go for it, they're excellent bikes. Thumbs Up
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G
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Re: Considering a change of bike Reply with quote

First off, remember the SV can no doubt go a load faster than you are making it go now.
If handling is an issue, that can be quite cheaply/easily sorted.

However, the CBR will go faster easily and the handling is already sorted. It's also a bit more (despite being a Honda) involving engine.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Re: Considering a change of bike Reply with quote

C-Pk wrote:
Hi everyone

I'm relatively new to biking. Only recently passed in August. However I am getting a little bit too interested in something faster.

I currently ride a SV650. I have been tempted by the Honda CBR600F.

Anyone any advice or experience with this machine?


Also bear in mind that you can't have been 'using' the SV to its full potential over the winter months. Wait until we've got a bit of proper sunshine and the roads are salt free and then see if you want to change. The weather conditions make a surprising amount of difference IMO.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you done the following:

Changed tyres? (if still standard)
Done the Suspension front + back?
New Exhaust?

If so then yeah look for something else. I have an SV and wanted something new but haven't put enough miles on mine to chop it in ofr something different probably will keep until this time next year and pay a bit off my mortgage instead.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 14 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you just need to ride the bike harder to me. Certainly not a bad choice of upgrade though.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't rev the nuts off it you are right there. I just seen a few different pictures in various places of the CBR600F and it looks like a lovely lovely bike.

I probably will stick out my SV for now. Get some good hard riding in over the summer months.

That CBR just looks so nice in certain paint decals.
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick with what you've got, just ride it harder.. Sorted Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBRs are quite rare
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G
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

C-Pk wrote:
I don't rev the nuts off it you are right there. I just seen a few different pictures in various places of the CBR600F and it looks like a lovely lovely bike.

The SV definitely does need to be revved to the red line to make full use of it. If often doesn't give that impression, but most definitely the case (I raced them for a year and have easily 'embarrassed' plenty of bigger bikes at trackdays and in open class races).
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had ridden both the SV and CBR and can say the CBR is a nicer bike but not alot of different other than the handling issues on the SV - yes its soft but easily sorted, mine was already sorted.

But you say you haven't ridden the nuts off the SV, its very torquey and great fun, wait for the good weather. The CBR requires alot more revving but has bags more power in the upper rev range, in my opinion I found the SV more fun as the power is there already.
Yes also the CBR engine is more involving.

As you have ridden a 600 class bike, you may as well go for the 750 or litre bikes. I think your be bored of the CBR600 fairly soon. But if you just want a change of looks and a better handling bike then go for it.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

SV650 'torquey' Confused. It doesn't FEEL like you need to rev it, but it doesn't really move without revving. It DOES have shorter gearing than the CBR, but otherwise I'd say it's probably similar powerwise rev for rev, it's just the CBR has the extra flexibility of an extra 4k rpm of revs where the power really takes off.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

in a way yes you got to rev it but the power is there much lower down.

The CBR needs to be kept nearer the redline for a similar effect but you do get equally just as much a grin out of the SV! Very Happy

The SV gets a bit breathless once your nearer the ton, but its perfectly well tuned for roll on throttle performance around the 60 mph plus. Just thrash the SV and your love it more. I think you have been riding it in a very lazy manner of late, ride it hard and your be surprised of what its capable of.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree. I'd say the CBR is similar lower down.
More that it FEELS like you need to rev it because it gives relatively more up top*. While the SV FEELS like it's got more low down due to it's limear power delivery, while in reality, it's pretty gutless.

* A good example of this is the RS250. Out of the powerband it FEELS like it's got less power than a 125. Reality is that before you get to to the powerband it's making more power than the maximum a 125 stroker makes at peak power, but due to the way the power builds on the 250, it gives the impression there's very little below that.

As for 'roll on at 60', that of course depends what you're comparing it to. Same gear on the CBR and the CBR will have it easily, I reckon.
Certainly compared to a superbike it feels pretty slow at 60. But of course that's a superbike being used properly Wink.
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cb1rocket
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I disagree. I'd say the CBR is similar lower down.
More that it FEELS like you need to rev it because it gives relatively more up top*. While the SV FEELS like it's got more low down due to it's limear power delivery, while in reality, it's pretty gutless.

* A good example of this is the RS250. Out of the powerband it FEELS like it's got less power than a 125. Reality is that before you get to to the powerband it's making more power than the maximum a 125 stroker makes at peak power, but due to the way the power builds on the 250, it gives the impression there's very little below that.

As for 'roll on at 60', that of course depends what you're comparing it to. Same gear on the CBR and the CBR will have it easily, I reckon.
Certainly compared to a superbike it feels pretty slow at 60. But of course that's a superbike being used properly Wink.


ok anyone want to lend me a CBR and SV for the day lol Wink
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a track SV sitting here and may end up with another road one to tomorrow Smile.
Got some CBR wheels, but that's it.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll rake the sh!t out of it this summer Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to agree with G but having owned both bikes I can confirm that the SV may feel torquey etc but a look at the speedo will tell you it isnt picking up its heels at any impressive rate.

Roll on at 60? The SV wouldnt have a chance, reduce that chance dramatically for anything above that.

I may disagree slightly on the mods being cheap as not everyone can do the work and fettling thereself but its not mega bucks if you can sell on the old forks and shock!
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 15 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

When racing I've paid people to do stuff to forks for me and it's still not been too expensive (that way get free setup advice, etc) - add in fitting a GSXR rear shock and the price won't be too silly, still.

Learning to service the brakes yourself is probably a good call, however, what with the frequency it's needed Smile.
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 16 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go buy a GSXR750 SRAD. They are cheap as an FX and are fast enough to keep you happy for years. More torque than a CBR6 at low revs but a rush at the top end when you need it. Tour it, track it, race it if you like, i have owened/own both bikes and although the honda is sweet, the SRAD is a proper Big Boys Bike.
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