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tvchimp
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: YEAAAHHH!!!! My Crisis Sorted :D Reply with quote

I won this roughly 1 hour ago..

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330541053771&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_1752wt_1141

After the experience I had with a dealer earlier this week, I'm happy to say, buying privately is a lot less hassle!

A bit more than what I wanted to pay, but seeing as it's just had an MOT, and an engine rebuild and comes with a screen and rack (both will be taken off once I get home might I add), I'm happy with using it to get some experience with gears.

Already spoke to the guy, he's an old bloke who's owned the bike for years, and used it to go around the local countryside during summer.


Quick Question.... Does anyone have a haynes manual or workshop manual they can offer me a link to download a copy of? Not been able to find one...
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one in those same colours. I considered fitting a screen to mine, that one looks nice!
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it's been very well cared for. But you're going to have to take it easy for a while with a rebuilt motor. And hope the rebuild has been well done Wink
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an old bloke myself, it's heartening to think that the term implies either trustworthy or good at looking after their bikes. I like to think both. Good luck with your purchase.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice buy Thumbs Up

I love the square clocks Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

27cows wrote:
Looks like it's been very well cared for. But you're going to have to take it easy for a while with a rebuilt motor. And hope the rebuild has been well done Wink


I asked about it when I spoke, he said he's ridden a few more miles on it since he wrote the add, and it pulls in each gear fine, no noises or power difference so it should be fine I hope.

I've got a lovely (I'll say this now) 170+ mile journey home from collecting it, so will take it easy along the roads back whilst trying not to race my dad on his ZX9R... Embarassed

Oldie wrote:
As an old bloke myself, it's heartening to think that the term implies either trustworthy or good at looking after their bikes. I like to think both. Good luck with your purchase.


I look up to the older generations, they know more stuff than I do, and they've lived to tell the tale so they've gotta know something!.. They(old fogies, Laughing) normally do look after things better, I remember it from my grandad, his house was epic! all his things were in pristine condition, even though some of it might have been 40+ years old.

Plus, old people rule, I'd rather live in a house with 10 other 60+ year olds, than live in a house with 10 16year olds. I'd end up going to prison... Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you probably already know, the top ends are fragile, then can drink a lot of oil and starvation ruins them.
Mine also handled like you were riding the garden gate Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll find out on a 170 mile journey if the rebuild is a good 'un Laughing

Sounds like a good bit of money has been spent on it. Makes you wonder they this guy didn't just retire it and not bother. Maybe he's a genuine enthusiast who wants to see the mighty Superdream on the roads for as long as possible.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thrill of a new vehicular purchase !

Nice bike, also its nice to see so many parts replaced on it, should extend its life a fair bit.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main cause of 125 Superdream engine failure was learner owners not changing the oil etc Laughing Same goes for the early 250N. Looked after they run along very reliably.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a decent price, and as said, keep oil topped up and that thing'll go forever.

Gaz
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love tat 80's look.
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm gonna try keep it easy on the run back, gear changes below 5-6k rpm and go no more than around 55-60mph. A few stops is on the cards for lunch and to make sure I'm not walking like John Wayne by the time I get home.

Anyone know what oil these things use? I know the CB100N uses 10-30w engine oil.. I'm gonna be finding out when he changed the oil last (I'm guessing after the rebuild...duhh Laughing) and the small service details, and checking it over next weekend, as I start a new job on monday Cool

Downloading a CB125-CB175-CL125 Workshop Manual at the moment, hopefully there's no issue with it and it has some more information.

I've been reading that the CB125T engine was 'the most powerful 125 4 stroke engine of it's time' ... this true? Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

10w40 is what you need. 10w30 is recommended by the manufacturers for quite a few bikes but it's not easy to come by. Everyone (virtually) uses 10w40, no problems.

The early 125 twin had (I think) 16hp. But by 1987 they would have had 12hp, which in some ways is a good thing as the motor is understressed and likely to be more durable. Reckon the pre-1983 bikes probably were the most powerful 125s as there wasn't a lot of sporty 125 four strokes back then, before the emissions madness took hold.
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 1983 TDC, which I think is the first powered down model, shame really.
But for what it is, it is EPIC!

I love mine, and it gets the attention it deserves, she's getting a top end rebuild soon, then she will be purrfect.
But, even though it's not the 16bhp version, it's still pretty quick for what it is, top end speed the MOST you will get is 70, that's mine maxed out on a flat.
Mike has given me A LOT of information, just search CB125 and you'll find it all I imagine, but make sure when you change oil that you do clean oil strainer.....even if it is for piece of mind, as I found quite a bit of crud on mine even though it was "restored".

But you will have a lot of fun, it's a nice size bike, easy to handle, probably not the best first geared bike to ever have, but you'll get used to it.

The general rule of thumb is, if you look after the bike, it will look after you. I commute a round trip of 50 miles a day for work, and it hasn't let me down.
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a lot of bike for £499 and looks pristine. I considered the CB when I was looking for a learner bike but the draw of the 2 stroke was too strong...

Sounds like you're not going to be an idiot and thrash it from cold everywhere. Enjoy! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks a great buy and will be a fun ride home Thumbs Up i would think about keeping the rack on as could pick up a cheap top box, i got one for £5 and much prefer it than backpack as takes weight off shoulders.
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PostPosted: 07:25 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd keep the rack on if for no other reason as it acts as a bumper if some halfwit goes into the back of you. Protects the rear end pretty well in a minor shunt.
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

27cows wrote:
I'd keep the rack on if for no other reason as it acts as a bumper if some halfwit goes into the back of you. Protects the rear end pretty well in a minor shunt.


Not only that, his rear indicators are mounted on the rack Very Happy (see the ebay ad)
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 19 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely bikes, and that looks like a good example. Just make sure you get all the receipts for the work done, otherwise when you sell it, it'll look like a shagged out 45000 miler.

Let's see, traditional Find Something Wrong. Chain isn't slack, swing arm isn't bent, tyres look good... hmmm... front L plate isn't legal. Try to knock 50p off the price. Dance!
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PostPosted: 05:03 - 20 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be interested in how you get on with that bike......

I was curious why it didn't get any more interest than it did. You got your bid in at the asking price in the last half hour, didn't you?

I had a few 'concerns' over it, though, and its interesting that you say its an old boy who has had it for YEARS, and been bimbling about the country on it.....

That black powder coated rack, Givi screen, and round headlamp are pretty destinctive....... Seller has no feedback rating....

But I saw an identically specced and alledgedly 'rebuilt' bike, pop up twice on e bay in the last year, failing to sell on either occassion.

On both counts the seller claimed it had 'full' Tax & test.... which is odd, if its only 'just' passed an MOT.

First time it was advertised, was claimed to have been bought 'just' as a project, and I recognized it as a bike that had sold a couple of months before with the suggestion it was a 'quick fixer upper'. And wondered WHY he changed the headlamp and indicators, & suspected he'd dona lot of accessorisation and no mechanics!

So, I suspect it was bought as a 'quick fix', possibly for a relative, that didn't like it, or more likely, lost interest when the scale of 'faults' became apparent. Then was offered for sale, with 'MOT' ahead of actual test, presuming it would pass, and he wouldn't actually test it until the day before it was paid for..... advertised for too much money, 1st time found, I think £900ish.... failed to sell. Then again, advertised for £750ish....... now SOLD, for £499......

If it was bought, as a project last Summer, and offered for sale twice, then it would have around three months MOT remaining... would it have been tested THAT much ahead of time? DID it have MOT on the last to attempts at selling? Has he REALLY been using it in the interim?

Be interested in seeing all the receipts for everything... he claims 'new' crankshaft, and then lists all the bearings that go on it.... its a pressed up assembly, if it WAS a brand new crank (Probably more than half what you paid for the bike!), then it would come with all the bearings on it...

He also claims to have fitted new 44mm (standard sized) pistons and rings. That was one that made me frown, because he didn't mention either a rebore or new barel. If the bores are worn, fitting a new piston wont help, you need a rebore and oversized piston. Can be as cheap to get a new barel kit, as I have just done, which would take stock sized pistons... but curiouse....

Claims to have replaced the cam chain, and the entire camchain tensioner assembly... but not the cam sproket? Cam drive sprocket would have been changes IF he fitted new crank... so why scrimp on whats a £10 part?

And what about the Cam? IF its needed THAT much in the cam drive, why? what happened? Top end siezure (mention of new oil pump primes that suspicion), would wreck cam and head, but no mention of either. Slack cam chain, from never having been tensioned? Possibly cause chain to slip a tooth or two, MIGHT cause timing to go awry and valves to hit pistons, and motor to 'jam solid', but that would mean bent valves and probably cracked valve guides..... of which no mention.

The description, raised as many questions in my mind as it answered, and the work and bits he mentioned, dont make logical sense. Its all very 'strange'.

You have either stolen a real bargain, that has damn near a brand new engine in it..... or its a bit of a lemmon.... only time will tell!

Going over this weeks ebay offerings, with Snowie.... we ran the scenario we were in last year, when she was looking at a £500 Insurance settlement on her nicked Cruiser, and looking for another bike.... had THAT come up then, and had we NOT chosen to do a 'project' on a 125..... would it have made the short list for a training & test tool?

Without more to give confidence it really IS a well sorted bike, it was entirely down to price, and at £500, JUST worth the risk we decided......

But WHEN you go to collect, go over the damn thing with a fine tooth comb! You want to see reciepts for all those parts he claims to have bought, you want to know why he changed them. And you want to know about the stuff he hasn't mentioned like the rear suspension, or the carburettors.....

THOSE are a 'bugbear' on the Superdream, and the carburettor mounts go hard and leak air. Discontinued, you cannot get new replacements... and 9/10 times THAT is teh 'small carburettor fault' people suggest is an easy fix, if you clean the float bowls or have access to a balencing guage!

Best of luck, and I hope its a good'n.... but remember BUYER BEWARE!
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 20 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to 'take away' your apostrophe key.

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PostPosted: 10:03 - 20 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best of luck tvchimp, should be OK. Despite what 'The Book' says change the oil every 1000/1500 miles for some decent 10w/40, oil is (still) cheap, engines are expensive. Get some-one who 'Knows' to check the motor over, valve clearances, any unusual noises, oil leaks that shouldn't be there (and there shouldn't be any). Generally speaking if Jap engines are given the minimal amount of maintenance and regular frequent oil changes they'll run forever. My old CB250RSA is knocking-up 51000 miles now and still going well, good oil every 1000 miles !. Enjoy. Smile
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