Harold Shipman is dead

[chunkielad]

https://uk.fc.yahoo.com/s/shipman.html

The coward couldn't live with what he had done
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[Kris]

Should have hanged long ago IMO.

Good that us tax-payers are not supporting him anymore though
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[Kickstart@Work]

Hi

Probably went to see the prison doctor asking for something to help him sleep .

Doubt he cared too much about what he had done, probably just about being locked up for the rest of his life.

All the best

Keith
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[Ste]

[Deano]

From last nights report they were saying that he may of been mentally ill. Also talking about the number of suicides in prison were very high something like 90 or 900 (I think) talking about how to prevent suicides from happenning. Anyways this may be irrevalant but if my work get their way they'll be helping prisoners like Shipman possibly get out of prison.
As were developing systems to help mentally ill to stay out of prison or not even go in their in the first place.
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[Hex]

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When he was first locked up i'd have supplied a noose happily and said 'we cant do it for you but anytime you feel like it go ahead and do the job for us.'

Same goes with alot of people in prison.
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[Deano]

LOL @ dru, yeah it does spring to mind now when I first heard of the project I didn't like the idea then and still don't.
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[Danny]

The number of prison suicides in the UK is about 96. But suicide is legal in the UK so it brings into question does the prison service have any right to stop 'sane' people from killing themselves.

Also I would suggest that you would have to be mentally ill to do what Shipman did, maybe a bit controversial but I also think that peodofiles etc.. are not evil (for the most part) but mentally ill, I mean you have to be ill to do what they do, don't you?

[Kris]

'Ill' or just 'different'?

Seems that it's all too easy to claim insanity nowadays. Surely Shipman knew what he was doing? A man of that intelligence would know 'right' from 'wrong' and as such is accountable for his actions.

As an aside i think he killed himself because he knew his life was going to end in prison one way or another.
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[Danny]

[chunkielad]

[Hex]

People who say they are mentally ill want to give their heads a shake and snap out of it!

Mind you some of the more extreme ones like the propper mentally ill people need locking up for public safety reasons and their own safety.

And before anyone goes ahh but me so and so is mentally ill and I don't think that blah blah blah you don't know what your going on about. I've got a fucked in the head uncle (who really needs to snap out of it and give it a shake), I've went out with a lass who worked with mentally ill people and met and went on trips with them (some needed to give their heads a shake and snap out of it some needed to be locked up) and I'm not talking about those types of people who are mentally slow.

If people try to use an illness as an excuse that they didn't know what they where doing was worng they fall in to either the snap out of it and give it a shakecategory or the locked up for public safety.
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[Danny]

Chunkielad, you sure? I'm quite sure that it is legal, but assisted suicide is illegal, as is euthanasia(except under certain circumstances).

Oh Hex I don't think it is quite as simple as 'snap out of it'.

[Kris]

Suicide was decriminalised years ago. Assisted suicide is illegal but due to common mitigating circumstances (ie relatives helping someone die in peace) the CPS have been criticised for taking it to court. Or something like that
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[Danny]

The funny thing is, when it was illegal the penalty was death.

[Deano]

If someones mentally ill and commits a murder my belief is they shouldn't get away with what they done because apparently they didn't know what they were doin. Even so public safety has to be considered and they shouldn't be allowed to carry on walking the streets to at least they are well. I say this as when I lived in nottingham, where I lived their was local incedent like this were someone didn't get charged for murder because he was mentally ill and was allowed carry on walking the streets.
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[Deano]

[Kris]

[Danny]

[Hex]

I know it ain't as simple as "snap out of it" you have to give the head a shake as well.

Heres something for you, my gran's sister was put in a mental institution when she was 18 as she was seeing a married man! She is now 70+ and still in this mental institute! Yet people who have proper mental problems get to roam the street etc!?

My personal opinion which will upset most, but you have to consider my total intolerance for people and lack of caring is they should be put down. And yes that does involve the funny buggers in my family etc.
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[Kris]

[Danny]

@ Kris, hence the words 'generally' and 'except when people f*ck up'.

Hex, that was a long time ago, the system has come a long way since then. In those days it was thought that people in hospitals should not be visited.

The problem with 'putting down' a person for mental illness is that your either saying they should be put down because they are a burden to society, so that means your should put down old people. Or the only other justification seems to involve evaluating a person worthiness to live based on their intelegance.


I do love a good wednesday lunch time rant.

[Kris]