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Polarbear
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 30 Mar 2011    Post subject: Thieving scumkbags, and I don't just mean the thieves Reply with quote

My daughters 125 got nicked the other day from outside a friends house. We reported it to the police and I got a phone call this morning -

It's been found, burnt out Crying or Very sad bastards

But the nice policeman had it recovered and now I have to pay £150 for the privalidge of going and getting back a pile of burnt out bike, or I can pay them and extra £50 for them to scrap it. (and it's £15 per day storage starting tomorrow)

I'm not sure who are the thieves are in this story.

She was only 3rd party, and anyway the excess is more than the bikes worth.

I'm not happy Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 30 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scrap it, cut your losses.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 30 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair to the polizei, they have to recoup the high costs of oppression somewhere...

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PostPosted: 14:14 - 30 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about her bike bud. It’s happened to me as a young lad, couple of 125’s nicked.
Same story, plod getting back handers from the recovery people.

You have the choice, it needn’t be recovered if you don’t want it to be. They sometimes ask this. I said last time this happened. They found it in a field, torched, I said I didn’t want it. A week later they want me to fetch it, it’s incurred charges to.

Tell them to suck your c0ck and don’t call again.
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 31 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Sorry to hear about the bike. Nob cancer on the scrotes.

2) Tell Plod Plc that you'll see them in court if they think you owe them money. Invite them to bring a contract with your signature on it.
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 31 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
1) Sorry to hear about the bike. Nob cancer on the scrotes.

2) Tell Plod Plc that you'll see them in court if they think you owe them money. Invite them to bring a contract with your signature on it.


Dont usually quote nor agree with this guy... but true.
Tell them to do one, you reported it stolen and do their job and find it.. didnt say you wanted the burnt out remains back.
Police never charged me for my bike they recovered.. Mainly because I asked them would they pay it, its extortionate and they can bill me for it in the form of an invoice.

Never heard a thing Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 31 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
His usual eloquent insightful wisdom.


Dont usually quote nor agree with this guy... but true.


Well, it's the law of averages: you had to be right sooner or later. Whistle
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 31 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
1) Sorry to hear about the bike. Nob cancer on the scrotes.

2) Tell Plod Plc that you'll see them in court if they think you owe them money. Invite them to bring a contract with your signature on it.



Agreed. My RXS had this experience, they rang me to ask if i wanted it recovered before they did anything. As it had been nicked by local fuckwit scum i went and got it myself.

After this happened a couple of times i got and electronics whizz mate to fit a mercury switch thingie to detect movement. Had a remote unit in the house that went off when it was moved so i caught them in the act. Grabbed the nearest one and had a 'discussion' that led to him deciding that making sure my bike was left alone was his new calling in life and would be most beneficial to his overall health and wellbeing. Bike was never touched again. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 31 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^

Good idea, should have wired it up to just shock the little fecker!

Cops are no better than the theiving scum, except they are doing it right in front of you! Give them the Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 31 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell them to go and fuck themselves, you signed no contract nor requested recovery and there's not a chance in hell a court would find in their favour. Let them do their worst, which will be the square root of fuck all.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 31 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

And now I agree with Hetzer! Congratulations, coppers, you're doing a great job forging a strong, united society. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 31 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

They tried this with my sons ped...he was still lying in the road and the coppers giving me a price list of having his bike recovered Shocked

My latest run in with the police hasn't improved my opinion of them...
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 31 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always, always tell them you will collect the bike yourself.
Doesn't mean they won't get it recovered anyway (seen this - but at least there's a chance of not paying if they do).

AS FAR AS I KNOW - you can just not pay it and they don't make a big thing of coming after you. Probably worth a call to explain you don't want the bike back.

I was at the scene of an accident (car hit scooter rider) and mentioned to the police that the scooter rider had AA. They weren't interested because it meant they would have to be waiting around for an unreliable breakdown service, as opposed to their 'official' ones which would be there pretty promptly.

Someone on here's bike got nicked while they were in the Ambulance on the way to the Hospital when they police didn't use their official recovery people.

Remember that £150 is paying for someone to be on call any time of day or night - like motorway services, you're paying mostly not for the service, but for the availability of the service 24/7.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 31 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I start, I am no great fan of the money chasing old bill, but..

The plod don't get the cash, it's the recovery operator who is charging it.

I worked doing police jobs for a long time and there is no way on earth the bloke that owned the company was giving anyone a backhander, tight fkr.

Trucks cost in the region of £60-80k and may last 3/5 years, thats a lot of cash to make just paying for a truck without drivers wages, 24hr control room staff, storage facilities, security etc etc.

What would people suggest, have a copper sat waiting for several hours while you find someone with a van at 3am who will go pick up whats left of your bike for you and store it, well, outside the flat it was stolen from or have the plods trained to do an estimate of repair on every vehicle that gets found so they can assess whether to leave it there or get it recovered?

It's simple, any vehicle gets found it get recovered, simple system that has it's faults.

If you had a busa found 20 miles away with lock damage and it was recovered and back almost intact you'd be chuffed, if your £500 rat gets burned down the local park and recovered the old bill are cunts.
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 31 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:
Before I start, I am no great fan of the money chasing old bill, but..

The plod don't get the cash, it's the recovery operator who is charging it.

I worked doing police jobs for a long time and there is no way on earth the bloke that owned the company was giving anyone a backhander, tight fkr.

Trucks cost in the region of £60-80k and may last 3/5 years, thats a lot of cash to make just paying for a truck without drivers wages, 24hr control room staff, storage facilities, security etc etc.

What would people suggest, have a copper sat waiting for several hours while you find someone with a van at 3am who will go pick up whats left of your bike for you and store it, well, outside the flat it was stolen from or have the plods trained to do an estimate of repair on every vehicle that gets found so they can assess whether to leave it there or get it recovered?

It's simple, any vehicle gets found it get recovered, simple system that has it's faults.

If you had a busa found 20 miles away with lock damage and it was recovered and back almost intact you'd be chuffed, if your £500 rat gets burned down the local park and recovered the old bill are cunts.


They should of nicked the scroutes before giving them the chance to nick the bike.

Can guarantee most of them would be re-offenders.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 01 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as I hate to defend them, that isn't the police's fault, it's the courts who let off muggers, riff raff and scum with a slap on the wrist, and then send down bikers for speeding. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 01 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since it was the thieves who originally took the bike and dumped it, thereby incurring the recovery charge... Surely the OP can tell the plod to bill the thieves once they catch them. It's win win all round!

I genuinely cannot see any flaw in my logic!
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 01 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poseidon wrote:
Since it was the thieves who originally took the bike and dumped it, thereby incurring the recovery charge... Surely the OP can tell the plod to bill the thieves once they catch them. It's win win all round!

I genuinely cannot see any flaw in my logic!


Now that would be justice bing done, might make them actually do something towards finding and locking up the lowlife.

Anyone fancy putting forward the proposal?
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 01 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
like motorway services, you're paying mostly not for the service, but for the availability of the service 24/7.


There's a flaw in that one.

Most services shut up their McDonalds, KFC and Burger King at silly early O'Clock, leaving the only option of a ridiculously overpriced crap sandwich from the shop.

Services in the UK are FAR from being completely 24 hour.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 01 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

keggyhander wrote:
G wrote:
like motorway services, you're paying mostly not for the service, but for the availability of the service 24/7.


There's a flaw in that one.

Most services shut up their McDonalds, KFC and Burger King at silly early O'Clock, leaving the only option of a ridiculously overpriced crap sandwich from the shop.

Services in the UK are FAR from being completely 24 hour.


Our services are shite, pay to park for more than 2 hours and have use of sod all facilities.

Go into europe and services can be found more often, more open, more facilities open for longer and often 24hrs and no parking charges so you can have some proper sleep if you need it instead of signs saying "don't drive tired" and then fuck you over with a £60 fine because you slept for 3 hours.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 01 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:31 - 01 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

keggyhander wrote:

There's a flaw in that one.

But you CAN go to the toilet, warm your hands, sit down in shelter, get some food etc. Also I believe the services have to be a reasonable 'licence fee' to the government for being there.
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PostPosted: 07:38 - 02 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
keggyhander wrote:

There's a flaw in that one.

But you CAN go to the toilet, warm your hands, sit down in shelter, get some food etc. Also I believe the services have to be a reasonable 'licence fee' to the government for being there.


Yeah but back when I was gigging there'd be times when all I wanted was a whopper or big mac and the sign would be lit up, only for me to waste time going in only to find it shuttered up.

Why don't they turn the bloody external signs off?

"Never mind, once they're in they'll be forced to buy a ridiculously over-priced crap sandwich from the crap shop."
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 02 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awww, poor you.

But then; like, once I went in to the M&S and they didn't have the Chicken and Bacon club... frankly don't know why they didn't just block of the entrance to the services!

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PostPosted: 10:43 - 02 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Awww, poor you.

But then; like, once I went in to the M&S and they didn't have the Chicken and Bacon club... frankly don't know why they didn't just block of the entrance to the services!

Wink


So sayeth the Master-Of-Missing-The-Point.

It is common sense and good practice to turn off illuminated signs if the businesses to which they belong are closed. Petrol stations are the perfect example.

Carry on being an arse if you want. I would have said "Smart-Arse", but you haven't enough logic to be one.
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