New Bike! Boom + 1 question.

[jackw72]

Hey all,

After having a restricted Suzuki GS500e for 3 years I have finally upgraded to a 06 Triumph Daytona 675, I just wanted to share my elation with all you lovely people.

One small question it is 7k miles old with 1 owner but has no service history, who believes this is an issue and who doesn't?

It is coming from a dealer so I have a month warranty and hopefully the PDI should mean everything will be working. Considering buying a warranty seperately at my local garage good idea?

Thanks,

Jack
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[gmanxiii]

Pretty sure that any retailer selling 2nd hand goods are required to give 3 months warranty. But generally even that doesn't mean much depending what goes wrong with it.

No service history isn't an issue as long as it looks like its been maintained well. Think most bikes tend to have oil change intervals every 8k anyway so its probably been sat in someones garage for the last 5 years not doing much as average miles is 4500 a year. Get the dealer to do a service.
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[MarJay]

[Acemastr]

Having purchased a CBR600FV with 11k miles on it and no service history, i'd not buy a bike without one, as the engine began tapping extremely loudly at 17k miles, i looked after it as good as i could, the damage was done before i'd even bought it.
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[jackw72]

[Suntan Sid]

I can’t comment on your particular choice of bike, but hopefully this will make you feel a bit better.

I’ve had a fair few bikes in my time; I’ve only ever had two bikes that had less than 7k miles on them, a brand new 350YPVS and my DRZ400E.
Other than me taking the YPVS for its first (free) service, I’ve never owned a bike with any service history. None of them have blown up spectacularly, the worst problem I’ve ever had was recently when the seals in the oil cooler, on my CBR600, gave up, (it has done 40k miles though)!

Presumably you’ve done a bit of research on the Triumph Daytona and know what the known faults are; armed with this knowledge you should be able to make a reasonable assessment of the bike.
Riding it should highlight any obvious shortcomings.
7k is a very small mileage, check the bike over, carefully, then service it yourself, then go and ride it.

If you’re really concerned about it, does the AA still do vehicle inspections?

Congrats, by the way!
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[0ddball]

Sounds suspect. Even if someone had serviced it themselves from new you'd expect they would keep the receipts for the parts.

Consider it could be clocked. I've seen 30k bikes that would pass for 5k. A good thing in a way as it has to be very well cared for to pull it off but still, not the bike it's made out to be.
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[Polarbear]

[dogbot]

Is it really cheap? If not, worth looking at others with some history, I'd imagine.

[Polarbear]

But wth 7k miles it wont have much service history will it. My busa has done 7k and is only now due its 2nd proper service and thats with Suzukis crap 3000 mile intervals.
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[dogbot]

"Much" and "None" are not the same, are they...?

If I was going to service a bike myself, I'd keep the receipts for the bits I'd used, otherwise it seems rather "did it myself" meaning "didn't actually bother".

[Ichy]

What do people believe service history adds to a bike from a buyers perspective? I wouldn't trust some of the 'mechanics' I've seen to change a fuse. It should be fairly evident from the appearance of a bike and a test ride as to if its been looked after or not. Consider the lack of history as a negotiating point, a way of reducing how much you pay.
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[neatbik]

I really wouldnt worry about it. Does the bike look like its been looked after? That will give you a good indication of the level of care the previous owner took with it.

[gmanxiii]

Not everyone keeps receipts for parts, i recently flogged my bike and had a dig around for receipts to show I'd serviced it. Found a couple for oil and odd one for filters but majority of stuff i had bought and changed wasn't there. But you can normally tell when somethings been looked after and when somethings not.

It's not always the case but if its really done 30k, just use your head, you should be able to see wear, where the rider makes contact with the bike (pegs, seat, fading bits on the indicator buttons, road grime in nooks and crannies etc etc) expect to see the odd furry bolt too. If its generally pristine outside and under the fairing then its likely not.

There are odd exceptions, not often but they are about. I looked at a 50k mile 2001 R1 which was showroom condition. It was in some dark dingey unit in blackburn. Pretty obvious that the previous owner looked after it despite it having minimal service history. There was 2 other older r1's with less miles in the same unit but they were average condition.

I then looked at a 20k mile 2004 R1 that looked like it had been dragged out of the sea, had leaking fork seals, butchered wiring and that was actually sat in a proper yamaha dealer... Not even the promise of a full service and tidy would have swayed me to buy it.

It's better to have a shop around and see whats available so you can make a better comparison, see what an actual average condition for the year bike looks like. Just helps you get a feel for what might be dodgy and whats not. Also helps you know what you can negotiate on.
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[Gerrard]

Just do a quick check on the colour of the oil in the engine, by looking at the spy glass.
If he has looked after it the oil should be clean, also check the tyres for good wear and tear.
All tell tale signs to a good previous owner.
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[rac3r]

I assume he has already bought it.

Just get it fully serviced then your mind will be at rest. Otherwise you'll be forever worrying about every little noise it makes
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[rac3r]

[bacon]

[Bendy]

The service interval on a 675 is 6000 miles so I really wouldn't be bothered.

[jackw72]

Thanks everyone again!

There are divided opinions as expected by any question, but reassurance is good.

We should be having a couple of weeks of sunshine here so a good time to get it!


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[Rogerborg]

Agree with the above. It should have 2 previous MOTs - do they have mileages on them?

What condition are the tyres in? Are they consistent with 7000 miles, i.e. needing replaced, or recently replaced?

If you're going to get a risible 1 month warranty, what are you paying dealer prices for? At a minimum, I'd expect it to be serviced, the book stamped up, and any replaced consumables provided as evidence.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

Check the chain and sprockets, 7k of wear would mean they are in good nick with a small amount of wear (check the adjuster marks) and be on the original chain and sprocket set.

If it is a 7k mile bike with an aftermarket C+S set I'd be surprised if the mileage was genuine.

Something occurred to me though, buy a new bike and a new speedo at the same time, fit the new speedo for all but 1000 miles a year then after 10 years of abuse sell it with the original speedo with 10k on it.