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PostPosted: 12:44 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Late 70s GS500E (possibly American import) Reply with quote

Price/Availability/coolness in general.
What's the goss?
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean a GS550E?
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told it was a 500 but if not, then whatevs, 550, .. the size is about right for me around town, so I thought I'd ask opinions here, before I took enquiries further.

is Gerry's similar to that?
(what's Gerry got? all I can remember is its a "GS" Laughing erm, I think ... )
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GS500E is a bag of crap. I believe it was first built in 1989ish and is an air cooled parallel twin.

The GS550E is not a bag of crap. As I recall it's a four cylinder bike and is much nicer than a GS500E.
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I brought a GS550 Katana from N30 years ago for about £200. Really simple bikes to work on and a proper roller bearing bottom end. Good job really because they were your average commuter and got treated as such. Plenty of spares still available but beware if you need to buy forks, virtually all the ones I saw were pitted.

The ride was fine, just a bit heavy to steer. I dropped it a couple of times and nothing broke so I liked it. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:03 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Late 70's 4-cylinder universal Japanese bike.

If it follows the stereotype it'll be a pretty strong, aircooled engine in an unweildy chassis that seems massively under-braked by modern standards.

If it's spent the last 35 years in California, it probably isn't suffering from the terminal corrosion a UK example would be exhibiting by now so it has a chance of being fairly tidy.

Suzuki electrics from the late 1970's were fairly notorious for being a bit shit. Especially the charging systems.

I personally would preferr a GS850 which are built like a tank (also in terms of weight and handling).
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the 550E and the Katana. As said by Marki the Katana was top heavy but it sat taller and had a much larger tank. The GS550 is under powered as standard. For a daily town commuter it will be fine. You can get 60mpg from them. Think around 48 was my avarage. If you have some spare cash its worth getting a better exhaust and tunning the carbs as when i got mine done it was like a new bike.
Your America/Canida import with have tamper proof carbs but that is just silly rubber stops that you can drill out easy enough. REG/REC can burn out easy and take the genny with it but you can plumb in one from a honda easy enough. I used a GSXR600 one on my last 550 Katana. As said, easy to work on and a simple 8 valve engine that can run and run and run. No reason you cant turn the clocks on any of the GS range. Sorry, rule out the shitty twins in that last statement.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

UMG wrote:
SUZUKI GS550
1977-85, 549cc DOHC four,
54hp, 110mph, 50mpg, 450lb
The strongest Jap four, with lots of roller bearings and gear primary drive. Stable, safe handling but excess mass. Alternator and rectifier (use Superdream items) burn out. Top end eventually goes after 75k. Engine should be smooth and clean running. Exhaust and caliper rot endemic to the breed. Katana version looks flash, does 60mpg but lacks comfort. Custom version handles strangely above 70mph. Expensive on consumables but very tough.


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PostPosted: 13:40 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if you do get it you can get a lot of info here

https://www.thegsresources.com/

Also Old school suzuki forum if it ever start up again but they are on facebook. Some good guys there that sell parts cheap.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 14 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
is Gerry's similar to that?
(what's Gerry got? all I can remember is its a "GS" Laughing erm, I think ... )
Mine's similar, although there are a few differences internally. Mine's the later 650, although the 550E is generally regarded as a very solid, unfussy design. TheGSresources site is very good, although the banter is somewhat lacking.

I can recommend the Marshall exhausts for them, they're very nice, well priced, and sound lovely. My only criticism of the GS range of the era is the electrics; I'll be completely re-wiring mine soon as a result, but if the one you're looking at is a running example, you shouldn't have any issues. Don't forget that mine was sat for 20 years, instead of being used as it should've been.

On the upside, I do now know this series of bikes pretty intimately, so you're more than welcome to nip round with it if it manifests weirdness of any description.

The reg/rec can be replaced with a superdream one, which is largely regarded as unkillable, the tyres can be had cheap if you buy Heidenaus (they're the ones I've got; I've been pleasantly surprised by them, and they were ~£120 the pair), the US/CAN carb screw situation is easy to solve (as 1888 has said), and they're very, very easy to work on. Unless you want to remove the airbox, but that's just par for the course.

I also have a manual that I got from Marki which should cover the one that you're talking about.

To answer your original questions though; Price - I'd expect a grand or so, (maybe more depending on condition though).
Availability; they're getting rare, although they're not impossible to find. Spares are still available.
Coolness; immense.

Check the underside of the seat, because they're prone to rot, as are the exhausts. If there's any chunks flaking off the frame, walk away; they're fine with light surface rust, but if it's established itself in there, it's a liability.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 15 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still trying to get hold of the guy selling it, so all academic at the moment.

But thanks for all the useful pointers and offers xx Smile
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any update on this, Jen?
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 19 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiresomely, No.
As I haven't heard back, I might have to pester the owner at close range on FB Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 21 Mar 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So anyway, I messaged the guy on FB, he saw my message two days ago (gotta love FB and its "seen [timestamp] facility" ( Laughing ) and he hasn't replied.

Meh, whatevs.
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