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joe.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 12 Mar 2011    Post subject: cbr 600 project... Reply with quote
after my trusty cbr shat its internals i decide to rather than replace with a cbr600 engine, to upgrade to a fireblade engine. First i thought it would almost a straight swap, but there is a lot of extra bracing/welding an alignment that needs doing but hopefully when its finished it will be lots of fun Very Happy
anyways this is what happened to the original engine.
nice blast out into Stratford and on the return journey noticed that it was a bit rattly at around 2500k, i just thought it was the cam chain tensioner so carried on a bit tentatively, then it got progressively worse until it just died. a roadside strip down revealed this...

all i can think is that the tensioner maybe got stuck and caused the cam chain to over-tighten an pull the sprocket off Shocked made a makeshift strainer to check (with my t-shirt) revealed shit loads of iron fillings.
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Tristan.
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 12 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not surprised if you rev it to over two million rpm

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Raf
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 12 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
The early cbr's are prone to bad cam chain tensioners. Mine was always rattling at startup, most people who track day them replace them with ape manual tensioners. Apart from that the engines are ment to be fairly bullet proof.
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Maruchino
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 12 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
oh shit Sad
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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 12 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
No need to purchase a manual CCT, just get a long bolt that has the same thread as the short bolt at the top of the CCT.
Make sure this bolt has the thread running the whole length of it.

Bosch it in there and use 2 nuts to lock it in place.

Pikey manual CCT Very Happy

Been using it for a while on my CBR Very Happy
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Raf
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PostPosted: 01:21 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
No need to purchase a manual CCT, just get a long bolt that has the same thread as the short bolt at the top of the CCT.
Make sure this bolt has the thread running the whole length of it.

Bosch it in there and use 2 nuts to lock it in place.

Pikey manual CCT Very Happy

Been using it for a while on my CBR Very Happy


I thought about doing something like that before but with my record of bad bodges i was to scared. Glad to know it works though Smile
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joe.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
No need to purchase a manual CCT, just get a long bolt that has the same thread as the short bolt at the top of the CCT.
Make sure this bolt has the thread running the whole length of it.

Bosch it in there and use 2 nuts to lock it in place.

Pikey manual CCT Very Happy

Been using it for a while on my CBR Very Happy


cheers mate, afer looking at whats needed for the blade conversion, im just going to put a cbr6 engine back in, so its worth putting a manual cct in the new engine?
cheers
joe
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CaNsA
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 13 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dude, just whip out the small bolt and stick in a longer one with a couple of nuts on it to lock it into place.

Eventually the CCT will fail and this is the cheapest option of sorting it.

You can buy a "proper" manual one from ebay but all you are doing is buying something that you already have.

Ill take a pick of mine and show you what i mean.
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woll
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 10 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
Dude, just whip out the small bolt and stick in a longer one with a couple of nuts on it to lock it into place.

Eventually the CCT will fail and this is the cheapest option of sorting it.

You can buy a "proper" manual one from ebay but all you are doing is buying something that you already have.

Ill take a pick of mine and show you what i mean.


Mine's given up the ghost, could you take a picture please? not sure where you mean to stick the locking nuts. ta
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james1988
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 10 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
Dude, just whip out the small bolt and stick in a longer one with a couple of nuts on it to lock it into place.

Eventually the CCT will fail and this is the cheapest option of sorting it.

You can buy a "proper" manual one from ebay but all you are doing is buying something that you already have.

Ill take a pick of mine and show you what i mean.


I'd like to see this too. I need to get around to changing them on the 'storm but on a student budget it's way down on the list of my priorities. A cheaper mod will be greatly appreciated!

James
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Ichy
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 10 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
woll wrote:
Mine's given up the ghost, could you take a picture please? not sure where you mean to stick the locking nuts. ta


I've got a used but ok automatic one that you can have for £5?
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 10 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Marki wrote:
woll wrote:
Mine's given up the ghost, could you take a picture please? not sure where you mean to stick the locking nuts. ta


I've got a used but ok automatic one that you can have for £5?


I may take you up on that if my new one hasn't appeared by thursday, i need the bike on saturday for work. I'm just waiting on the cct to appear.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 10 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
If that's the case then your welcome to one of my spares. Just give it back when the new one turns up.
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