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t101
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 16 Dec 2010    Post subject: Helmet heads up displays Reply with quote

Does any know of any?

All I can find is:

https://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/09162004110317MWECMM.htm

which looks sort of naff to be honest, im surprised a few of these havent crept onto the market? theyd be pretty handy and im sure people would buy them?
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 16 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

id be more worried about it spinning your helmet round in a crash. Exactly the reason your not allowed any cameras fixed to helmets on track days. dont stick anything to your helmet, it can snap your spine, i dont care how easy it says it can break away, theres allways a chance it wont, ild rather look down at my instrument panel.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 16 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ben, probably best never opening your visor in that case.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 16 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That particular one is quite old now and a little low tech compared to the sort of stuff that is churned out of China, like the little keyring video camera etc.

I'd expect there to be something better around, although that one didn't sell very well as I recall.

Maybe if someone came up with something a lot smaller that worked with a Sat nav to give directions or something it would sell better.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 16 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helmets ought to have displays like those of air force pilots. You could then have just a very basic read out on the dash for when your visor is open.

There are no safety implications considering they are used in flight, where many will say safety is more critical (it's not, but people will say that)
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 16 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
There are no safety implications considering they are used in flight, where many will say safety is more critical (it's not, but people will say that)


But there is a lot of space in the sky and they are not confined to tight roads, with numpties all around.

Biggest issue would be to be able to focus on something a couple of inches from you eyes as well as matain clear vision in the distance.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 16 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an awesome idea! Cause its hard to see the instrument panel in the advertising picture ain't it.....

https://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics/MRC_HUD1.jpg

Wink Jokes aside, they could have made it look more useful in that picture.... Smile I would mind a kinda LCD kinda visor like that mind.
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PostPosted: 00:42 - 17 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd settle for someone inventing a visor that you can actually see through properly on anything other than a perfectly warm, dry day.

Walk before you can run and all that.
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 17 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt a visor will never have no fog etc... I don't think that there is a safe material that can do it properly.
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PostPosted: 06:17 - 17 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I'd settle for someone inventing a visor that you can actually see through properly on anything other than a perfectly warm, dry day.

Walk before you can run and all that.

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PostPosted: 09:41 - 17 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually suspect some sort of glass laminate would be the best material, maybe even with an electrical demister. Making sufficiently good and light glass with such curved optics would be extremely expensive though.
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 17 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A decent working automatic wiper blade for my visor would be good. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 17 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

they do make heated visors for snowmobile helmets
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HJC-IS-16-HEATED-SHIELD-SNOWMOBILE-HELMET-S-M-L-XL-2XL-/230517185072?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item7b672906a4
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 17 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

warped one wrote:
One thing I can't understand is why doesn't someone make, cheap reactor light screens?

The technology has been out for years with welding screens, but all thats offered for bikes is like those reactive lenses in glasses, which are slow and shit.


How much does it cost?
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 17 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

warped one wrote:
One thing I can't understand is why doesn't someone make, cheap reactor light screens?

The technology has been out for years with welding screens, but all thats offered for bikes is like those reactive lenses in glasses, which are slow and shit.


Because it's illegal. They wouldn't let the legal minimum amount of light through. They can make a thin film of the reactalite stuff that you fit as an insert (which falls through the "primary eye protection" loophole). An electronically darkened, LCD visor would have to be one piece and therefore illegal if dark.

The double-galzed snowmobile ones have the same problem which is why you can't get them here (I have one, they don't steam up but any smears or scratches on the visor are twice as bad and snowmobile helmets are hell of a draughty as it turns out).
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 17 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I actually suspect some sort of glass laminate would be the best material, maybe even with an electrical demister. Making sufficiently good and light glass with such curved optics would be extremely expensive though.


I used to have one, back in the 70/80's. Not sure who it was made by. Was toughned glass on the outside and then polycab bonded to the inside.
Worked very well as I remember.

As a stop gap. Get a spare visor, cut the ends off and using some 2 sided tape, stick that over your other visor.
Result is a visor with a nice airgap and does not fog up as easy.

Works well as I have found out over the last few weeks. Works better than a inset, as it does not scratch as easy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 18 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
That particular one is quite old now and a little low tech compared to the sort of stuff that is churned out of China, like the little keyring video camera etc.

I'd expect there to be something better around, although that one didn't sell very well as I recall.

Maybe if someone came up with something a lot smaller that worked with a Sat nav to give directions or something it would sell better.


yeah, thats why i was asking if there were any others around! surprised someone hasnt come out with something newer/better.

you seem to be onto my train of though too... imagine satnav overlayed onto the actual road, clocks, road information, etc.


Nai wrote:
What an awesome idea! Cause its hard to see the instrument panel in the advertising picture ain't it.....

https://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics/MRC_HUD1.jpg

Wink Jokes aside, they could have made it look more useful in that picture.... Smile I would mind a kinda LCD kinda visor like that mind.


the thing is... sometimes it IS hard to look at your clocks AND the road?
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 18 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

t101 wrote:


the thing is... sometimes it IS hard to look at your clocks AND the road?


I agree, but I am still going to poke fun at that picture Razz
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 18 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the risk of sounding like a boring old giffer, if you can't keep a decent eye on the gauges and the road you're going too fast. How hard is it to maintain a constant speed without looking at the dials anyway, learn to do it on th engine note.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 21 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe on yer country lanes mate - come to london, looking at your clock for more than a split second at anything over 10mph will get you splatted! do you only look at your clocks to maintain a constant speed?
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 21 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

these are rubbish, I read reviews and they do say very hard to calibrate and don't work well even when they are calibrated. Stay away !!!
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 21 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

t101 wrote:
maybe on yer country lanes mate - come to london, looking at your clock for more than a split second at anything over 10mph will get you splatted! do you only look at your clocks to maintain a constant speed?


Bollocks! You can't do much more than 25mph a lot of the time on shitty London roads. You shouldn't need to be looking at your clocks riding around town save for approaching cameras and even then you shouldn't need to give them much of a look.
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 21 Dec 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nsr_J22_FOXEYE wrote:
these are rubbish, I read reviews and they do say very hard to calibrate and don't work well even when they are calibrated. Stay away !!!


thats cos its about 20 years old. if you actually read the OP i was asking if they were any newer ones around.


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t101 wrote:
maybe on yer country lanes mate - come to london, looking at your clock for more than a split second at anything over 10mph will get you splatted! do you only look at your clocks to maintain a constant speed?


Bollocks! You can't do much more than 25mph a lot of the time on shitty London roads. You shouldn't need to be looking at your clocks riding around town save for approaching cameras and even then you shouldn't need to give them much of a look.


bullshit. maybe not in zone 1 - then yeah you never ever need to look at your clocks. you ever been on the a2? a3? 406? m25?

this forum is starting to get on my nerves. bunch of old grandads arguing with everything anyone says just for the sake of it.


are you seriously trying to say a heads up display sat nav would not be good? have you ever tried looking at a satnav while riding a bike?
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