tl1000 or vtr firestorm

[fzr_400]

So guys, what do you think is best outta the two, for value for money, grin factor, reliability, cornering and stability, have decided i cant keep away from the v twins, although i only had a baby sv650s v twin i loves the way the bike was, the low down grunt, the noise all be it with a standard can lol, so which outta these two??
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[Gazdaman]

TL1000R, in blue and white.

https://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z268/DIRTROADREDNECK/tlr1000.jpg

I've got a semi on just thinking about it.

The TLS has the death rotary rear steering damper, and the firestorm has a tank range of about 300m.

SV1000 is worth considering. SP1 is one sexy bike though.

Gaz

[fzr_400]

yeh i dont think my budget will stretch to the sv1000 or sp1, will have about 1500 quid to spend, are the firestorms really that bad on fuel, dont mind about the shock as i got a mate who knows how to change them over
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[Gazdaman]

I've heard stories of 100miles to reserve on a firestorm.

For that sort of budget you could look a bit further afield, there would be plenty of older Ducatis in your price range.
I personally think the TLS looks a bit rubbish and I'd be looking at the firestorm out of those two.

Gaz

[fzr_400]

am worried about reliability with a ducati though, seen it soo many times with them, the tls does look naff compared to the tlr but not hard to change with the adding of a fairing, would never put tlr stickers on it but could just buy the fairings
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[Fisty]

[pinkyfloyd]

The Firestorm isn't bad on fuel. It suffers with a small tank. The 2001 models and later fare better with an extra 3L. They'll do about 100 miles between feeding on the open road but suffer in town riding. On the plus side they are great fun and comfy on long journeys. I done 400 miles on mine yesterday and the bike hardly broke a sweat.

I had the very same dilema as you and ended up with the Storm. The TL has a reputation of being a bit of an animal. Its a more forward position and a bit more unforgiving than the VTR. You want a bike you can race and throw around corners then the TL is more set up for it.

Want a bike that's a little gentler then the Storm is the one you want. Its not as powerful nor as fast but do make you smile as only a V2 can.
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[fzr_400]

tbh, a tls with a lower fairing will do me till i can find someone selling some tlr fairings, aint gonna be using it for touring or something so fuel consumption isnt a huge worry, i know a bike esspecially a v twin is gonna drink it if i blat it everywhere, but i will only really be using the bikes full potential on a sunday run and using it for short blats when i go too and from work
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[yen_powell]

With regard to reliability, this is a detuned Firestorm engine in my bike. I bought this bike beacuse I found about 5 owners who had gone over 100k miles on them with no major problems and I do a lot of mileage.
https://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/yen_powell/P1080207SM.jpg
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[Gazdaman]

I feel the need to quote MarJay's "Bike's aren't lego" signature.

The TLS and TLR are completely different, their frames are completely different, I doubt it's simple to just bolt the fairings from one onto the other, I bet you'd need the fairing brace, maybe clocks and all associated bracketery. Then some imaginative bodgery.

If you want a TLR, get a TLR. Don't kid yourself and get a TLS because you think you can afford it under the misnomer you'll buy some TLR fairings for it.

Gaz

[fzr_400]

[G]

First off - the SV650 does not really have much low down power, it's just not got a big hit at the top. And err, not sure about the noise either really .

Further, I think it's a good example of a commuter bike, not a twin specifically. Something like a Hornet also has a pretty bland engine.

The litre sports twins tend to less usable low down (ironically the big sports 4s tend to be better), but do have a reasonable amount of midrange feel, partly thanks to their lower gearing compared to the 4 cylinder bikes.

Anyway, sports twin different to commuting twin.

So, get a TL-S if you're male, or a VTR if you're a scardey female type .

[fzr_400]

lol so is the tlr shock transferable to the tls or is there a better rear shock on the market, i still like the firestorm just for the extra grunt/real vtwin noise, both are in my price range as well, the tlr isnt though
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[G]

Eh? I'd expect a TL-S to have 'more grunt' and just as much V-twin noise .
Tl-R actually sounds a bit less v-twinny (more kinda 'turbine like') for some reason, though probably just due to the exhausts that have been on the ones I've ridden or something.

[Wave2k]

TLR every day of the week.

Both the TLS and TLR have a crap rotary rear shock as standard.

It was the frame design and lack of steering damper on the TLS that mad it so dangerous.

great bikes though
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[fzr_400]

[Gazdaman]

I thought the majority of them were factory recalled and fixed?

Gaz

[Wave2k]

Recalled and fitted with a steering damper.

Tis why most are fitted with Ohlins rear shocks.
(the decent ones anyway)

Mine came with ohlins, and the spare rotary came with it.

Funny looking thing
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[pinkyfloyd]

[fzr_400]

[MinhDinh]

[pinkyfloyd]

[serlant]

Firestorm from me, Picked mine up last week for £1000 for a 1998, 12 months mot but no tax as my next bike after my 1990 XJ600, so well within budget and plenty of fun for that amount of cash.

(tl1000 is insurance group 16, vtr is 14)
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