is this too much work

Darthspence · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Karma :

hey just looking at bikes of ebay seen a suzuki gs 500 ey but its needs work done to it for an mot it needs
fork seals
tyres
and a replacment rear shock is this a serious job???

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pinkyfloyd · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Karma :

Depends on the price to be honest. Shocks are pretty expensive but you can pick them up second hand on Ebay. Fork seals are cheap but to change them you need to dismantle the whole front end of the bike. Tyres for a 500 can be a bit pricey.

Your best bet is buy one thats working and MOT'd because the money you spend on it getting it though the MOT might be more than a ready to ride bike costs.
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nowhere.elysium · The Pork Lord Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

Replacement shock and fork seals are easy enough to do, but the fork seals are fiddly, and tend to be classed under 'arseache' in my mental job catalogue.
Tyres, there are ways of doing them yourself without the right gear, but for the sake of a tenner, get someone with the right kit to do it.
Shock - that's a piece of cake, presuming you've got a centre stand, of course. If it's been removed, then it becomes more of a pain to do.
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Say about £150 for the tyres.
£10 for the seals, £10 for new oil, + an hour's labour (more for you to DIY it).
The shock runs anything from £25 for a salvage one to £100 for a new stock unit to £280 Exclamation

for a Hagon, plus another hour's labour, maybe half an hour if you get lucky.

Rough ballpark for a garage fix would be £270 parts + £100 labour, but get an estimate from your local grease monkeys. Do the work yourself and use a salvage shock and you could save quite a bit.

Is that the list of fails from an actual MOT, or the owner's estimate? It's a significant part of the value of a 2000 GS500, so don't over-bid on it.
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nowhere.elysium · The Pork Lord Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

Care to link to the ebay ad? It'd be easier to estimate the work needed.
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Darthspence · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Karma :

well the bike is sittin at about £250 just now so how much would be to much for a bike need this much work done ???

Darthspence · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Karma :

heres the link

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320693759118&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

nowhere.elysium · The Pork Lord Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Karma :

Depends on whether you've got a really convincing reason to not go for a more expensive, but tidier 600, really.

Tyres are the most expensive bit, so they can probably be ignored anyway, given that they're a general consumable.
You'll be getting a ~50hp parallel twin at the end of this: do you reckon it's worth the work/expense? More to the point, will you be doing it yourself, or sending it to a garage? If you're DIYing it, then sure - if you can source a decent shock on the cheap, then go for it. If it's going to a garage, then it'd come up as costing more than I'd be willing to put into a cheap GS found on t'bay.

Edit - having looked at the ad, I'd say avoid, unless you're willing to factor in future exhaust repairs. The 7th photo looks like he's used a spray can to cover up some significant rust. There's a fair bit of surface rust on the pillion peg hangers too, and why have the downpipes been sprayed silver?
It's redeemable, but if you're asking how much work it is to sort fork seals and shocks, then you're probably not going to be up for the amount of work to get that looking tidy again.
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f1fan111 · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Karma :

If it needs new fork seals i would want to see what the fork Stanchions are like.

Darthspence · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Karma :

im not sure this is more just research for me just checking price and whts a good buy and not, whts worth buying to fix ect, this one just grab me as its was near buy and the price. My partners dads an old bike and is a dab had a working on bike and my old man has a good size garage im sure he would be happy to let me and him to fix up in there for a wee shot after words lol (also a old biker but my ma stopped him doin it after her ex died in acciedent)

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Darthspence · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Karma :

tht is nice and is just the kinda machine we both drool over lol

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Darthspence · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Karma :

wht bbq lol??? sounds good just thinking about the time i would need to invest as i have a 1yr girl and a another wee'n on the way lol

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John933 · Crazy Courier Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Karma :

If you can do the work your self. £250/300 max.
It's 10 year old. And not s tricky dick bike. A plodder that will run and run.
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Darthspence · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Karma :

yeh im not keen on new stuff either lol, yeh like i said im just really do research on whts out there so when time does come i dont lose out

Teflon-Mike · tl;dr Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Karma :

Be Warned; 'Just Needs Fork Seals for Test', in bike speak, is like saying 'One Careful Lady Owner' to a second hand car salesman.
Ie: behind that small, cheap easy to fix problem, probably lurks a whole host of not so cheap, easy to fix problems!
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Darthspence · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Karma :

haha one lady owner is a classic, aye thts why ive stuck up this post just to see how second hand sales work in the bike world lol

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

It's hard to tell without seeing it in the flesh. From those pictures, there looks to be a fair amount of tread on the tyres. You only need 1mm across 90% of the width of the tyre for an MOT. "Shock spring seized" is a peculiar description - I doubt it's been for an MOT, it's just Bloke Says stuff. It might not need that work doing, it might need more. For one thing, the battery is probably shagged.

20,000 miles isn't a lot, but the valve shims should have been checked every 4,000 miles. There's no mention of service history.

It's probably an honest bike, but those sprayed downpipes are a bit hmmmmm.
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Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

That bike is clean & tidy - it's going to go for good money just based on the pics despite the work needed. No real bargain to be had IMO. If it needs tyres, battery, fork seals and MOT you need to add a couple of hundred quid to the finishing price which is going to push it over going market value.

Rear shock could be seized just from standing. A couple of good bounces on the seat would free it up. I had a VT250 like that.
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Ichy · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Karma :

I brought a '90 GS500 for £200 from someone on here. Fork seals were changed, roughly 1 hours work, carbs balanced, valves done, and it was given a good clean and 12 months MOT.

I was hoping for £350 at best, it sold for over £500. Its not a good time to be buying.
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open · Trackday Trickster Joined: 04 Apr 2011 Karma :

...That has 4 days left on it with at least 8 people watching it.

That price will rocket up on the last day (probably even the last couple of hours)

Sorry, I'm used to buying on ebay. If no one had bidded then you might have a chance. You havent bidded yet and are watching it, so there will defo be more like you & most people dont bid till the last min anyway.

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Try the 'time ending soonest' option when looking at auctions. You dont have to wait 5 days to see what the price will be & have a chance of grabbing a bargin.
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