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Advance police motorcycle course? Haven't heard of it tbh.
Unless you mean the Bikesafe courses which are led by the police and are open to anyone.
https://www.bikesafe.co.uk/ |
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Cost me £30. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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Don't know about the rest of the UK, but it looks like the bikesafe course is free up here in North Wales (£10 admin fee). I'm seriously considering attending. ____________________ '10 Skyjet SJ125-23 - Crashed > '09 YBR 125 > '53 Suzuki SV650 - Died > 2010 Suzuki VanVan 125 > '87 Yamaha FZ750 Sold > VTR 1000 FireStorm - Sold > Honda CB1000R |
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I've done BikeSafe and appear to get exactly £0.00 discount from it, from the insurers who even count it as an advanced qualification. It's worth doing on its own merits though. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I did the bikesafe course with Fife Constabulary a few years back, and it didnt cost anything.
There were supposed to be four candidates for the two traffic officers but 2 people didnt turn up (maybe if a fee was charged people would be less inclined to break commitments?), meaning I was one on one with an advanced police motorcyclist for the best part of a day.
I'm pretty certain that you would get something from the course no matter what level you are at - the observation skills of these guys are amazing and something I aspire to when I am out.
We were told that they could not be seen to condone speeding as they would be following you on a marked bike, so we couldnt break the speed limit - I cant believe the size of my grin having spent a day not breaking 50mph.
If you could get a place, I would go for it! ____________________ '82 C50, '81 CB100, '84 GS125, '95 NTV650, '00 Bandit 600, '06 SV650, '56 Z1000, '89 NTV600
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I'm pretty sure what the OP is talking about is what serving officers get put through prior to becoming official police bikers.
You have to have been in the police for a couple of years to get in to traffic I think, then in traffic for a couple of years to get on to bikes... or something like that.
Overall, rather a lot of effort to get money off your insurance .
Bike safe is considered an 'assessment' not a course generally - but some places will offer you money off anyway.
IAM is probably your best bet, if your local group is good. |
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G wrote: | I'm pretty sure what the OP is talking about is what serving officers get put through prior to becoming official police bikers.
You have to have been in the police for a couple of years to get in to traffic I think, then in traffic for a couple of years to get on to bikes... or something like that. |
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Minimum of 2 years probation walking the streets or driving a panda car, then pass the selection board for traffic, then obtain your class 1 car ticket, and then after about 12 - 18 months when you have done all your other courses, and if a vacancy arrives, then you may get selected for a bike course, although very few forces do the full advanced class 1 course anymore.
The advanced bike course is without doubt the best one I ever did, beaten only by the two yearly refresher when it was a 2 week jolly, and it is also good for losing weight as sheer concentration makes the pounds fall off
The closest you can get to a full Police advanced quailfication id the RoSPA advanced test.
IAM offers a pass or fail, and having been an examiner for both (still a current RoSPA examiner) the good IAM passes are very good, but those who scrape through would have difficulty in obtaing a bronze grade with RoSPA.
RoSPA grade the tests, so a RoSPA gold rider would have the civillian equal of a Police class 2 and would be capable of obtaining a Police class 1 with a little extra training.
Silver is also an excellent grade, whilst Bronze is a good safe ride with room for improvement.
There is also a re-test requirement, where with the IAM you take one test and providing you pass and pay your subscriptions, you can still call yourself an advanced driver or rider at the age of 95
Bikesafe is as already mentioned, simply a taster, an introduction to the principlals of advanced riding, it is not a course it is not a qualification, although I have often spoken to riders that they are Police trained when Bikesafe is all they have done.
It is a useful introduction if you have never experienced what it is about or what is involved, but the principals or techniques cannot be learnt in 1 or 2 days. ____________________ It is better to arrive 30 seconds late in this world, than 30 years early in the next |
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Did anybody do, or even remember, the old RAC/ACU training courses?
I remember doing mine based at a multi-storey car park in Wolverhampton in 1980!!!
Its a real shame they stopped being run. They probably stopped me damaging myself in my early days on two wheels.
I do recall it was a 6 week course. I attended for a few hours on Sunday mornings and it ended with a riding test plus some questioning, I think.
I passed my tests (wish I still had my certificate) and seem to recall getting a bit of insurance discount for my efforts. ____________________ Current......Kawasaki ZZR1200 C2H and Kawasaki ZZR600 E7
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 199 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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