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Adrian
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Almax 1.5 meter Reply with quote

Just bought an Almax 4 Series 1.5 meter chain and i'm having trouble locking the bike to the lamp posts. It's not long enough... I don't know what to do now, i have called the Almax guys and they said i can send it back pay the difference and get a longer one but they don't recommend it due to it's heavy weight. I'm using it with a CG125 for the moment but planning to change my bike with a '09 hornet in february. Does anyone use this length? How do you guys manage? Is it long enough to chain the hornet? I don't know if i should get the 2 meter one or keep this one... Any ideas? Thank's.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm which bit of the bike are you using to push the chain through? Are you attaching the bike ,side on or rear on or front wheel ?

I have a 1.5 M chain for my Triumph and it is plenty long enough to go through the back wheel and around a lamp-post. I can't do that and the swinging arm and exhaust etc.... but when out and about I use the chain and suitable street furniture. (I also use a disc-lock)

At home the chain is off the floor and tightly through the wheel, swinging arm and around the exhaust.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

1.5m is perfect for locking a CG125 to a lamp post.

If I were you though I'd send the series 4 back and get a series 3. No one is going to cut through the series 3 (it's that strong that it doesn't make it worthwhile so instead they'll go for the lock)so it makes the series 4 pretty pointless because of the extra weight.

I could get my series 3 through the front wheel, frame and round a lamppost on my CG125.
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if I want to loop the chain through the front wheel, I have to mount the kerb...no matter what position the bike is in it's still short. You get a fine if the bike is on the pavement right?
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrian wrote:
Even if I want to loop the chain through the front wheel, I have to mount the kerb...no matter what position the bike is in it's still short. You get a fine if the bike is on the pavement right?


depends on the local council and the parking 'police' in that area. They will ticket if it causes an obstruction. Local councils interpret that differently.

Your best bet is to use a council bike parking site... it means that it will probably be on camera too.

Otherwise see if you can ask a parking bod if they will ticket you there.

Lastly park where you have seen other bikes park and see what happens. I have parked in unknown areas on a pavements and had my bike running parallel to the road on the road side of a lamp-post so that I can fasten the wheel to it and mentally argued that a pedestrian won't normally walk that side of the lamp-post anyway. I haven't ever been ticketed but I do emphasize that it is down to local council discretion
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just chain the bike on the kurb. As long as you're out the way then no one usually bothers.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrian wrote:
Even if I want to loop the chain through the front wheel, I have to mount the kerb...no matter what position the bike is in it's still short. You get a fine if the bike is on the pavement right?

As you're in London, yep, you will get a fine if the bike or any part of it is on the pavement.

I don't understand how you cannot get a 1.5m chain around your wheel (should be the rear wheel, not the front one anyway) on your bike, as everybody else in London seems to be able to do that. Lamp posts are very close to the kerb, so you must be able to do that. Confused
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you fit a "pinch pin"?
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug97 wrote:
Can you fit a "pinch pin"?

I have a garage where the bike stays over night so that's safe. I'm only worried that i will not have enough length to chain the bike when traveling around London.

If i do get a 2 meter chain will that be to much to carry on the bike?
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

no problem with my almax 1.5m

it goes thought swing arm in my RS and there is enough to lock it to a lamp post/utility pole etc.

EDIT: oops I just read you post properly.. You've got almax IV I I've got almax III..

Almax IV is so so big i didn't know that there will be anybody atually riding with it Wink
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carrying my Almax 3 on a variety of big bikes was bad enough, can't say I fancy the thought of a 2 meter IV on a little 125 Shocked

I hope you went for the Kriega tail pack right?
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PostPosted: 01:43 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need the Series 3 for portability - and even that's bloody hard work to take about with you (strapped to the bike, not yourself, unless you like dying). I was advised by Almax against having a 2m series 3 because they basically said it'd be more irritating than it's worth.

I have 1.5m and have never really had an issue with the length, i always put it through the frame of the bike too. (CG125 at first, now CB500).
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PostPosted: 08:42 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think my el-cheapo chain is only 1m i never had a problem chaining my gsx600f to a lamppost etc.

just needed to get the back wheel very close (often touching) the object i was securing too
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see a problem carrying the chain, i can feel it on the back of the bike of course but it doesn't get in the way at all. I ride fine with it. I ordered a 2 meter, give it a go with that and as some of the guys here said, if it's to much to carry i'll probably go for a 3 Series. Thank's for advice guys. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seb wrote:
Carrying my Almax 3 on a variety of big bikes was bad enough, can't say I fancy the thought of a 2 meter IV on a little 125 Shocked

I hope you went for the Kriega tail pack right?


Yes, that's what i'm using.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wrap the chain over the seat and through the back wheel (to keep chain&lock off the ground). I secured my CG125 like that when I lived in London. On street parking all the time, didn't have a garage. Used to leave it like that overnight/over weekend near Euston. Seemed OK, didn't get nicked.

I'll also second the series 3. Locking a bike should not be a PITA or you'l be tempted constantly to cut corners. Sod's Law the day you succumb it the day some scrote decides to nick your bike.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would just want to suggest, that if anyone's going to the effort of using a top-end chain like the Almax (especially overnight etc), that they take the effort to put it through the frame of the bike as often as possible, rather than the wheels - which can be taken off reasonably quickly, and worse, near-silently.

IMO, the whole point of the Almax is that to break it, a lot of noise needs to be made for more than a few seconds (when i asked Almax how long they thought their Series 3 would last when attacked by the very best tools by the very best professionals making as much noise as they wanted - they said about 90 seconds, and it would be very loud).

It all becomes a little pointless if some thieves just silently pop the wheel off (OK maybe a little bit more effort than that for the rear, but same idea) and then lift the rest of the bike into the van, leaving you with one very secure wheel!
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ingah wrote:
I would just want to suggest, that if anyone's going to the effort of using a top-end chain like the Almax (especially overnight etc), that they take the effort to put it through the frame of the bike as often as possible, rather than the wheels - which can be taken off reasonably quickly, and worse, near-silently.


Easier said than done on most sports bikes.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrian wrote:
Doug97 wrote:
Can you fit a "pinch pin"?

I have a garage where the bike stays over night so that's safe. I'm only worried that i will not have enough length to chain the bike when traveling around London.

If i do get a 2 meter chain will that be to much to carry on the bike?

A pinch pin is different from a ground anchor - the Almax website sells them. It's a bar that goes through your real wheel hub and should mean you can use a shorter chain.
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 16 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pinch pin looks like a good idea. Thank's Doug...
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 16 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a pinch pin which I use on my bike in the garage. Make sure your padlock is the right size for it - it needs to fit very snugly around the pin.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 16 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

adrian if youd be interested in flogging it i'd pay a sum for it (Y)

Pm me if you fancy it.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 16 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I exchanged it for a 2 meter. I'll let you guys know how i get on carrying it Smile
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrian wrote:
I exchanged it for a 2 meter. I'll let you guys know how i get on carrying it Smile


So how did carrying it go? Smile

I'm just contemplating what to order for my Ninja 250r. I'm thinking 1.5m Series 3 and an an anti-pinch pin - does anyone one if an anti-pinch pin will fit on a 2009 Ninja 250r?
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 13 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

so how heavy are the 1.5m series 3 chains? also how buch room do they take up in the little 10L kriega seatpack thingies?

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