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joshbaty116
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 29 Jun 2011    Post subject: Gp100 cant get to strart Reply with quote

Hi all just fitted a engine into my bike at 1st coulnt get it to spark after some tinkering ive got a spark but i cant get it to run.. after a few kicks it tryed to fire but back fired out of carb n exhaust .. any ideas what i could do ?. . . .
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hazza
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 29 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you checked the timing? You say it has a spark, but is it a good spark or a very weak spark?
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joshbaty116
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 29 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

hazza wrote:
Have you checked the timing? You say it has a spark, but is it a good spark or a very weak spark?

seems a good spark n ive set the gap on pints to .40mm spark gap 0.70mm... cheers
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 29 Jun 2011    Post subject: Update Reply with quote

after keep trying and trying n tinkering ive looked at pissed n its blown it apart yet again n smashed the rings to pieces any ideas y it keeps doing this ..
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 30 Jun 2011    Post subject: Re: Update Reply with quote

joshbaty116 wrote:
after keep trying and trying n tinkering ive looked at pissed n its blown it apart yet again n smashed the rings to pieces any ideas y it keeps doing this ..


Numerouse reasons:
1/ Piston / cylinder clerance too big
- bore excessively worn
- rebored barel with standard size piston & rings, rather than oversized rings and or piston.
2/ Piston rings not 'pegged'
- peg not fitted
- peg shaken loose
3/ Your cracking rings
- under sized rings being fitted to over sized piston
- clumsily fitting them to piston
- not seating them correctly in grooves
- not aligning properly with peg
- snagging them fitting barel over piston
4/ Piston ring grooves are 'gummed' so rings cant seat properly
5/ Piston rings are 'snagging' on ports in cylinder wall.
- over sized piston rings
- poorly seated rings
- unpegged rings
- ports badly 'adapted' in some attempt at tuning, widened with needle file or dremmel, or the actual window chamfered around teh edge, and or burrs left.
6/ engine nipping up
- oversize piston / rings in undersized barel
- lack of oil
- weak fuel air mixture causing over heating (Often caused by running premix in petrol, without up jetting, hence same volume of 'fuel' flowed from tank per rev but less of it petrol, some of its oil!)
- 'Pre-Lube' not used during rebuild.... engine started 'dry' (piston & rings should be soaked in two stroke oil before assembly so as to provide 'pre-lube' when first turned over.
7/ Over revving engine, before rings bedded in, or engine warmed up
8/ Cheap nasty piston and or rings
9/ trying to re-use old rings
10/ ANY combination of above factors!
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