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PostPosted: 19:55 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Lathes Reply with quote

Is there a site/place where reasonable 2nd hand metal working lathes are sold other than ebay?

This is absolutely the smallest I could use for what I want and out of choice I would prefer centre length near 1.5 meters but I really can't justify 4 grand.

https://heam.co.uk/product/baileigh-lathe-metal-305mm-swing-915mm-centres-pl-1236e

Oh, would have to be single phase as well which would probably be as rare as rocking horse poo . Crying or Very sad

I suppose, in reality, lathes are kept until they are scrap and then scrapped so probably it's a pointless exercise.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

More traditional Engineering auction sites - Just be ready to move it if at short notice you win it.

For example
https://auctions.bpiauctions.com/auction-019/home

My work has been on a buying spree recently, with some mental bargains picked up. Don't worry - The only lathes we want are CNC, we just sold most of the Manuals off, now just a few for prototyping/rapid repair only.

Edit - Rotary Phase Converter, or a VFD will let you run a 3phase motor on a single phase domestic supply.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if 3 phase you could mibby fire a single phase motor into it. With the right electrickery control etc..

You are probably correct on keep it until it is scrap.

The bastart things never seem to wear out. Lifetime usage. (Unless there Russki.)

We had an old beauty on a rig I was on a few years ago. All it needed were tools and a micrometer slide. The rest of it was fine.
I cut threads and all sorts on it.
The hoowurs cut it up and flung it over the side on whim. (They waited until I was off the rig though.)

If you do win one at an auction you may have to take the car. A 9" lathe on the back of a bike will look mental. May get a tug from the Po Po.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've sold to and bought from West Point Tools a few times, but you're not going to get a working condition lathe on the cheap from any business, they're simply too desirable still, even the old'uns. Private sellers is where it's at Thumbs Up

How much of a rush are you in? One of our old engineers will be selling up and moving to France in the not too distant future, from memory he has a lathe in his shed that I'm sure would need to go before he leaves the country. I'll happily ask him next time he swings through work.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input people. I'm in no rush.

I just couldn't find anything on line so wasn't sure if that was cause there weren't many places or just plain incompetence with the search engine. Laughing

The trouble is I was spoilt on the ships, big Triumph and Colchester lathes. On one of the old American ships there was a bloody huge belt driven lathe with a seat attached to the saddle Wub

About 20 years ago I bought a Naerok lathe for the garage. Naerok spells Korean backwards. It should have spelt Krap it was so bad. The play in the thread cutting screw feed was atrocious. One of the biggest waste of money I ever spent which is why I was thinking of going for named 2nd hand units rather than cheap new (if 3 grand can ever be called cheap).



Will just keep looking
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Lathes Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
This is absolutely the smallest I could use for what I want


Wow. My question would probably be unanswered.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Lathes Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
This is absolutely the smallest I could use for what I want


Wow. My question would probably be unanswered.


If it's why do I need one that big?

One of the things thats a real pain in the arse on boats is that the propshaft wears where the stern gland packing is. What I want to try and do is machine the propshaft and fit a sleeve to bring it back to the correct diameter. It's a common trick on pump shafts, fitting sacrificial wear sleeves so I thought I could give it a go on the solid narrowboat propshafts.

It might not be worth it on the smaller shafts which cost £100 ish but the bigger ones, 2" diameter and 30" long are nearly £400 to replace.

And considering I would much rather machine that between centres than using a chuck you can see why I need the bed length.

Of course thats just one thing. The other reason I want a big lathe is cause bigger is better. It's penis envy. My mate has a Myford. That's not a lathe, thats a girlys bauble maker. Razz
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Lathes Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
This is absolutely the smallest I could use for what I want

One of the things thats a real pain in the arse on boats is that the propshaft wears where the stern gland packing is. What I want to try and do is machine the propshaft and fit a sleeve to bring it back to the correct diameter. It's a common trick on pump shafts, fitting sacrificial wear sleeves so I thought I could give it a go on the solid narrowboat propshafts.


The interesting things that come up here!... well. I see the point. I assume that modern gland packing materials reduce the problem. Does changing the nature of the shaft, i.e. by using hard-facing rod and grinding to size do similar? Are replaceable radial sealing flanges an option on these sort of things? A bolt-on flange might be easier to replace than a sleeve, although I have no direct experience & don't know what the normal set-up is.... it's all good stuff for conjecture.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is this place very close to where I live.I have been in there a few times for bits and pieces for my Myford and Harrison lathes as well as for my pillar drill.Very handy place to just walk around and find that elusive part that is needed for a restoration as well Wink

https://www.homeandworkshop.co.uk/stocklist.htm
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzer Thou wrote:
There is this place very close to where I live.I have been in there a few times for bits and pieces for my Myford and Harrison lathes as well as for my pillar drill.Very handy place to just walk around and find that elusive part that is needed for a restoration as well Wink

https://www.homeandworkshop.co.uk/stocklist.htm


Oh nomnomnom Wub £3250 + delivery though Crying or Very sad

https://www.homeandworkshop.co.uk/Q733.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Lathe Reply with quote

'Ive got a spare Viceroy TDS
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Fizzer Thou wrote:
There is this place very close to where I live.I have been in there a few times for bits and pieces for my Myford and Harrison lathes as well as for my pillar drill.Very handy place to just walk around and find that elusive part that is needed for a restoration as well Wink

https://www.homeandworkshop.co.uk/stocklist.htm


Oh nomnomnom Wub £3250 + delivery though Crying or Very sad

https://www.homeandworkshop.co.uk/Q733.jpg


A normal care and maintenance plan and you could sell that again for wot you paid.
It's a beauty.

Delivery is nothing it's moving the bastirts. They weigh about 90T 😀
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Lathes Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Is there a site/place where reasonable 2nd hand metal working lathes are sold other than ebay?


https://www.homeworkshop.org.uk
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW don't discount the older machines especially if all you're machining is propshafts etc. I saw a gorgeous 14 inch South Bend lathe with a 7 foot bed for sale for about £800 with all the bits and bobs that should come with it. Close inspection of the pics showed that it had hardly been used despite being over 60 yrs old.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/-/183211682066?nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l10137
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 25 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Lathe Reply with quote

ZebraDriver wrote:
'Ive got a spare Viceroy TDS


info and price please!
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