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 Posted: 20:57 - 01 Jul 2011 Post subject: Looking at ER5 with High Mileage, is it worth it? |
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Hi all,
I have chance of a Kawasaki ER5 for my daughter, it will be her first big bike, doing her Mod 1 & 2 so it will be restricted to 33bhp.
However the bike has done a few miles, 74k to give a rough estimate, it has an engine from a 20k bike, new CDI unit, needs a Battery, has MOT till Oct and a couple of months Tax, I have not seen the bike yet, will do tomorrow though, but have been told the forks could do with a rub down and a lick of paint, all in all its sounds ok,. its just the mileage putting me off a little, it has a Givi rack, crash bungs, heated grips and the guy wants £400 for it!
Is it the right sort of money or should I walk away?
Thanks
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MAKE SURE THERE IS COOLANT IN THE BOTTLE!
I had an ER5 and it kept sinking the coolant into the oil... but mine was fucked.
As for the forks, make sure the stanchions are not pitted below the lower yoke, otherwise it's due a fork replacement. Check for oil leakage on the rear shocks, and check the engine runs properly. The mileage shouldn't really be an issue because these bikes can run forever if they're looked after.
You say she's doing her Mod 1 & 2, so it will be restricted, that kinda makes no sense... as it makes no difference if you do A2 or DAS, there are still two parts to the test.
If you do decide to get it, and it needs a restrictor kit, I MAY have one. Sold my ER5 to the old man and he's got a full bike license so won't be needing the restrictor himself, but I don't know if he wants to keep it. If you're anywhere near Birmingham, I could fit it for you as well.
Willson ____________________ Benson: Wouldn't life be easier if we were all turtles?
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Being honest with you dude, certificates, dyno printouts, they're a load of shit. They don't prove that the bike is restricted, just that it HAS been. They're two washers that sit between the carburettors and the intake on the cylinder head, ever so simple to fit and remove.
Read here MCN article clearing up most of the perceived nonsense about restriction certificates. I'm on a restricted license and haven't had to produce a certificate saying that my bike's restricted. The insurance companies don't seem to care if you have an A2 or an A license either... mine asked me if I had a full or provisional. That's it.
Get a quote from wickedquotes.com as well for an ER5, I got my policy for about £180TPFT. I was 19 when I took it out, had just got my license, no NCB and it was parked on a driveway. They might be worth having a look at .
Willson ____________________ Benson: Wouldn't life be easier if we were all turtles?
Me: Pig on bread = The way forward.
Riding: '00 Suzuki SV650S. Previous: '99 Kawasaki ER5 - sold, '02 Suzuki GZ125 Marauder - sold |
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Wow, I wish I knew a 19 year old girl that rides. You got something special there.
Sorry I have nothing useful to say lol |
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Hey Mark, Wish your daughter all the best for her Mods 1&2 from me please.
@ Sickpup... It may be an ex courier bike.. but so is mine
OK... In my opinion, pricewise it's good... I had a nosey on Ebay and couldn't get a running, on the road ER5 for less than £800 this time last year.
Yes, 74,000 miles is high, but on that note, it really depends on the age of the bike too. A 15 year old bike regardless of mileage is going to have more electrical problems due to corrosion within the wiring loom than a 5 year old one.
Thus said. My 1996 ER5 has 87,000 miles on it, not including the many times it was run without a speedo cable (estimated mileage is around the 120k-130k mark)
Beginning of the year I had to finally replace the engine, that had already been rebuilt twice an now it has a much newer lump, out of a 'C' model with around 17k-18k miles on it.
Consequently, the problems I am coming across now, are all concerning corrosion within the wiring loom, which occurs with age NOT mileage.
For the record, I don't treat my bike with kid gloves, It doesn't get cleaned, it doesn't get polished, it just gets ridden and parked outside in all weathers (including 2.5 foot of snow last christmas!)
I often ride it 330 miles to Sickpup's house and back with no preperation, other than filling the tank and the usual lubing of the chain. I regularly ride with another member off here who has a Ducati 916, and he can testify that I don't exactly "cruise" at 55MPH
Restricted, they are great little bikes, and I would definitely recommend one for any new rider, as they aren't heavy, they aren't scary, they are just like a giant CG.
I would be inclined to replace the forks if they are pitted, and just fit a set of Gaitors which have basically saved mine. ____________________ Funny, I used to hate being spanked as a child!
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Hi
I've just completed a ground up resto on a 50,000 mile GPZ 500 (as good as the same bike).
This one had the usual Kawasaki chassis rot and scuffed plastics but seemed to be all there. It ran up OK when the seller started it up and I thought it would be a simple strip and repaint. Turned out to have broken piston rings causing excessive blow by via the engine breather into the airbox, strangling the engine once up to running temperiture. As a quick check, pull the engine breather from the airbox (rear of the gearboz) and check for crankcase gasses.
Even with this fault, it was repaired for the princley sum of £22 for a S/H piston, rings etc. Now runs srongly, very smooth for a twin, hits 90+ with ease. A very good starter bike, simple to maintain, loads of cheap spares. I have just sold this one for £400, so they are out there if you look. |
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Rotbox or not it, it didn't need painting or rubbing down, even the suspension was fresh and in good shape. The rather deserved god awful finish reputation kind of precedes them I guess, it's not like I even got unlucky with the sale, it got sold on again 6 months down the line for pretty much the same sum again.
Then again, given how bike prices seem to have crept noticeably even given the weather and season that's not a bad deal as long as the stanchions are not going to be a problem come mot time  ____________________ 2010 Triumph 1050 Sprint ST |
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[quote]That is NOT a ground up restoration.
Hmmm.... Frame stripped bare. Engine, swingarm, forks, rad, all removed. All metal cleaned, primed and painted. Engine stripped to crankcase, replacement piston, head lapped flat, valves lapped and clearances set. All gaskets re-usable on these. Wheels cleaned and re-painted, bearings all good. Exhaust / silencer welded and re-fitted proerly. Rusted fasteners cleaned or replaced.
Seems pretty ground up to me, or do you want me to replace everything with new... which actually would mean buying a new bike. |
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Hi all,
thanks for the advice and tips etc, I have picked up the ER-5 X-reg, lovely condition, the dent in the tank is barely noticeable and its only small, the scratch should polish out, all in all my daughter is very happy, its a very nice bike, I rode it back from Launceston, Cornwall 126miles, rides very nice.
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[quote="jjdugen"] | Quote: | That is NOT a ground up restoration.
Hmmm.... Frame stripped bare. Engine, swingarm, forks, rad, all removed. All metal cleaned, primed and painted. Engine stripped to crankcase, replacement piston, head lapped flat, valves lapped and clearances set. All gaskets re-usable on these. Wheels cleaned and re-painted, bearings all good. Exhaust / silencer welded and re-fitted proerly. Rusted fasteners cleaned or replaced.
Seems pretty ground up to me, or do you want me to replace everything with new... which actually would mean buying a new bike. |
That is a tidy up at best
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2. To bring back to an original condition: restore a building. See Synonyms at revive.
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| Taz69 wrote: | Hi all,
thanks for the advice and tips etc, I have picked up the ER-5 X-reg, lovely condition, the dent in the tank is barely noticeable and its only small, the scratch should polish out, all in all my daughter is very happy, its a very nice bike, I rode it back from Launceston, Cornwall 126miles, rides very nice.
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Glad you're sorted Taz! |
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GLAD THAT WORKED OUT FOR YOU, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT TO PAY A LITTLE MORE FOR FEWER MILES.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 133 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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