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PostPosted: 13:05 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Film industry takes action to prevent illegal downloads Reply with quote
I'm a subscriber to Newsbinz and hope this falls on its ass
they already tried unsuccessfully tried to shut newsbinz and failed
this looks like there new tactic

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The film industry is taking action to block access to a website which, it says, promotes piracy.

In a legal first, the Motion Picture Association wants to force BT to stop its customers from visiting Newzbin, which provides links to pirate versions of films, music and TV.

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PostPosted: 13:10 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Since we got a letter from our ISP saying this is our first strike for downloading copyrighted content we have had to stop torrenting.

There are better and easier ways to download films and music and stuff. Also not trackable. Only problem is it costs a couple of euros a month. Totally worth it though.
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good for them. I mean, fair play to you if you can get away with it but it's no different to walking into HMV and sliding a DVD into your inside pocket.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would say it is a little different to going HMV and stealing, but yes it is still wrong. If it is the case that these films will not be on the net, then I won't watch them. No one gains as opposed to just me. Lol.
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I use letmewatchthis.com for my movies. Rarely will I watch one more than once and any I do watch more than once I have on DVD.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
anyway even if the do force BT and other UK ISP's to block the site it won't stop people
I often use Anon proxies to link to torrents so there block will be useless

had a similar issue a while back with Ultimate guitar.com where certain tabs were blocked by UK ISP's
I just switched to a US based Proxy and got the tab's I wanted

Oh I do pay a fee to newsbinz & powerusernet every month to use there service's

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PostPosted: 15:16 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Like they're not making enough money already. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I used newzbin for a while, i didn't see that it was worth paying for, now i just use nzbs.org. Even if blocked you could still access it using something like Tor.
Torrent is really dodgy as you're actually sharing content with others, newsgroups is less so as you're just downloading. Yet torrents are still working just fine even years after the movie industry started their clamp down.
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Good for them. I mean, fair play to you if you can get away with it but it's no different to walking into HMV and sliding a DVD into your inside pocket whilst magically leaving the original DVD still on the shelf.


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PostPosted: 18:57 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
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Good for them. I mean, fair play to you if you can get away with it but it's no different to walking into HMV and sliding a DVD into your inside pocket whilst magically leaving the original DVD still on the shelf.


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PostPosted: 19:02 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Isn't theft defined as the intent to permanently deprive? Therefore if you don' deny somebody a copy of a film by stealing a physical copy, and you don't intend to buy the film then no one is deprived of anything.
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When everyone in both the movie and music industries are on a max salary of £50k a year, including the performers, and movies and songs are retailing at no more than 5p each (digital), I'll buy them legit. Until then they can go fcuk their parasitic selves.
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The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
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Good for them. I mean, fair play to you if you can get away with it but it's no different to walking into HMV and sliding a DVD into your inside pocket whilst magically leaving the original DVD still on the shelf.


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Isn't theft defined as the intent to permanently deprive? Therefore if you don' deny somebody a copy of a film by stealing a physical copy, and you don't intend to buy the film then no one is deprived of anything.


Well, I see both your points, but you could be depriving them of a sale.. the one they may have made to you if illegal downloads didn't exist at all.

Anyway, I wasn't intending to come across all preachy. I couldn't give a toss about an industry that makes billions a year whilst providing some pretty shoddy merchandise in the main, hence the "fair play" in my original post. I do respect their attempts to stop the piracy though.
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 28 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
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you don't intend to buy the film then no one is deprived of anything.


Well, I see both your points, but you could be depriving them of a sale.. the one they may have made to you if illegal downloads didn't exist at all.


Like i said all the films i've watched recently have not been ones i'd be willing to go to the cinema to see let alone spend 25 quid on a DVD of.

As for music artists make fuck all off a CD, look how many people there are from pop music who now have nothing. The big money is in concerts and festivals so when bands give their stuff away for free they get more fans and more people at their concerts.
Movies need the cinema and DVD sales to fund them as their budgets are the same as the GDP of an african nation. Lower budget movies with an actual decent plot and dialogue would have no problem making money, but the movie studios are obsessed with the status if gives their company making hundred million dollar shit heaps.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 07 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Well, I see both your points, but you could be depriving them of a sale.. the one they may have made to you if illegal downloads didn't exist at all.


I only pirate stuff I would never pay for.
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Doug97 wrote:
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Well, I see both your points, but you could be depriving them of a sale.. the one they may have made to you if illegal downloads didn't exist at all.


I only pirate stuff I would never pay for.

This is actually the argument used in copyright sometimes. How can a company suffer loss, if you never intended to buy it Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 08 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fortuna wrote:
This is actually the argument used in copyright sometimes. How can a company suffer loss, if you never intended to buy it Laughing


Precisely what my defence will be if I ever get caught downloading anything. Not that I do download things of course... Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 08 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hetzer wrote:
When everyone in both the movie and music industries are on a max salary of £50k a year, including the performers, and movies and songs are retailing at no more than 5p each (digital), I'll buy them legit. Until then they can go fcuk their parasitic selves.


I'd like to think that I'm providing opportunity for the telecommunications sector to develop super fast broadband.

Let's face it, its more useful than feeding the actors drug habit Razz
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They'll only drop the domain name (judging by past efforts), so the IP or redirectors will still work fine.

They'll be blocking Google next for filetype:nzb Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 08 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hetzer wrote:
When everyone in both the movie and music industries are on a max salary of £50k a year, including the performers, and movies and songs are retailing at no more than 5p each (digital), I'll buy them legit. Until then they can go fcuk their parasitic selves.


This, it costs alot less to make an album/DVD than the £15 price tag in the shops

And films make their money from the box office, anything after that is a bonus
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 08 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
They're going to start making films people want to pay to see again?
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"Illegally downloading pirated films is costing hundreds of millions of pounds a year".

What site are they downloading them off? It's free for me...
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 09 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hetzer wrote:
When everyone in both the movie and music industries are on a max salary of £50k a year, including the performers, and movies and songs are retailing at no more than 5p each (digital), I'll buy them legit. Until then they can go fcuk their parasitic selves.


So where is the reward for making outstanding products if you can't rake it in as an added bonus?

Don't think I am anti piracy, I download everything from the web, but I can understand that people in a position to get obscenely rich from making movies want to maximise their return for their investment of time, money, and creativity into production.

Do they get enough as it is? Yes! Do I feel bad about depriving them of a little more by pirating things? Absolutely not! however capping everyone's salary? that is surely not needed, just leave the situation as it is, the pirates/hackers ALWAYS defeat the anti piracy/security measures, look at Sony for instance, MS had the sense to just stick to banning and patching when the 360 was cracked, playing hardball with the hackers caused a whole world of shit for Sony!

In my opinion the best thing the anti piracy wombles can do to encourage people to buy media is to immediately stop forcing people to watch annoying piracy warnings on genuine products, something you do not see on a downloaded film, and to continue to give people 3 packs with a Blu-Ray, a DVD, and a digital copy included (this is being done now) for a good price, no matter how cheap it is, the jump between cheap and not sold at all is always nice and profitable!

Stop annoying DRM in games, which pirate copy end users can circumvent during the installation process in seconds, and plague genuine users into having to be connected to the internet to even play a game they OWN.

I do feel a lot of piracy is brought on themselves, but I would never cap anybody's salary.

Just trying to get sites banned is cowardice, they should play technical games with pirates, invest some of that fat pile of capital into coming up with anti piracy measures that are invisible, but do the job, THEN they deserve that extra income.
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Misc originally posted this which is so true.

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