Blackbird vs TL1000R

[Faraz]

I'm looking to upgrade soon and am stuck between these two bikes.
Anyone have a preference?
Pro's, con's between the two?

Insurance for me is around the same for both, around £350 at 18.


Cheers.
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[c_dug]

Ones a hyper tourer (Basically Honda's 'Busa but earlier) and ones a superbike, they are very different and it depends on what you want from the bike more than anything.
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[Faraz]

Going to be used for a short daily commute and a 200m round blast now and again.
Practicality isn't really an issue as I've now got a car too.

It's really just to ask what they're both like to live with every day and which most people would prefer.
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[chrisgixxer]

i would go for TL if just for blast and not used for daily commute both good bikes though very track focussed:up:
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[The999Kid]

sorry, could i hijack this thread quickly? thanks

[hijack]

could someone do the same for a VFR800 Vtec (looking at a 2004 model) and an FJR1300?

thanks awfully

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[temeluchus]

Vfr800 lighter but less powerul, fjr heavier but a lot more power.
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[jjdugen]

Anyone notice the 'insurance £350 at 18' bit..................?

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[Faraz]

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[minesweeper]

For the use your describe the blackbird would be a better fit.
Commuting on a tl1000 which in my experience has a very heavy clutch wouldnt be a bundle of fun.
Both bikes will feel very heavy especially as at 18 im sure you've not ridden much above 170kg.
Also a tl isnt a forgiving bike whilst the blackbird has the usual honda ease of use.
Find a couple of second hand examples in local bike shops and take a seat on them. You may find a bike that everyone else describes as comfy completely unusable whilst a so called superbike fits u better.

Just a quick suggestion, thought about a cbr954? costs about the same second hand and will do everything u want it to. (unless insurance says no)
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[killa]

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If you can afford it, I’d say get the TLR. I have a 2002 unmolested model and i can’t say i have had any ill effects from the rotary damper. I’m planning on a big trip on the thing to see if i can get it to play up but so far so good, and I’ve ridden it as hard as the ZX7R on roads that i know.
It’s a bit George Best on juice but then i can’t see you finding a problem with that for the use intended.

Edit (due to sensible head of Luthian) :- It’s not the most powerful superbike around but at 18, if you’ve had little experience of a machine that could throw you off then be weary. The TLR is something to be respected, it has a lot of low down grunt which, with a happy hand, can spin up the rear in the dry.
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[Daimo]

TL, not even a contest.

Anyone can pin a throttle in a straight line.

And if your going TL, go for the better looking mans version. The S, not the toned down girly-esq R.

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[Daimo]

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[Wave2k]

I wouldnt believe that, the R isnt 'toned down' to the S at all.

Thats kinda like saying a RSVR is a toned down Tuono

Ridden both, owned one as well as a load of other V-twins

The reason was the frame on the S and the rotary rear shock (both models have them), as well as the lack of a steering damper on the original models.

Hense why youll see alot of aftermarket rear shocks on TL's on ebay and autotrader.

My TLR was in no way a 'girly bike'
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[pinkyfloyd]

My 2 pence:

The Blackbird is a license killer. Its very fast and very deceptive in its speed and is an IL4 bike and built for going long distances reasonably comfortable.

The TL is a hooligans V Twin with enough low end grunt to turn the world and tear up the tarmac whle you stay in the same place. It will kill you deader than a dead thing if you're not careful but it is way more fun and sounds like thunder.

Not that I've a V twin fan or anything but....

Blackbird fast but https://mix.raven-radio.com/emotes/cv.gif

The TL fast but: https://www.subzerosiam.com/forum/images/smilies/scared.gif
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