Aug 7th charity meet in surrey

[Satvc]

LANDS END TO JOHN O GROATS THEN BACK TO RYKAS CAFE ON 2 ATV'S 

FOR CANCER RESEARCH UK

 
        
 
 
Quad magazines personality of the year Ant Copeland and quad enthusiast Chris Thompson are going long distance for cancer research UK.
They are attempting to ride their Can am Renegade and DS650 from Lands end in Cornwall (the most south westerly point in mainland UK) 950+ miles up to John O groats in Scotland (the furthest north east point) then 700+ miles back down to their usual ride out point Rykas cafe at Boxhill near Dorking surrey.They plan to leave Lands end on Monday the 1st august and travel around 1800 miles in total and be back to surrey in less than a week.
Cancer research UK as we know is a great charity that are dedicated to saving lives through ground breaking research."We all know people close to us that have suffered from some form of cancer and it seemed to be the only logical choice of charity" says. Ant
Everyone is more than welcome to be at Box hill in surrey for a warm welcome back for the crazy pair, estimated 12pm Sunday the 7th aug 
 
If you'd like to make a donation to cancer research to show support to the guys please go to www.justgiving.com/Quadingitup

Everybody is welcome to rykas cafe on aug the 7

[G]

Did you know the best way to help reduce cancer in the UK is to encourage people to be more healthy?
Perhaps instead of going on a jolly, they should be spend their time explaining to people how they can make positive changes to their life to reduce their risk of cancer?

A quick google shows that eight years ago the chief executive of cancer research UK was paid £140k.

Be interesting to see how they came up with the conclusion it "seemed to be the only logical choice of charity"?

Would the participants in this venture be prepared to donate to charity for my...
WEEKEND AWAY SEEING MY MATES, DOING KARTING, SKY DIVING, THEN GOING TO THE BCF BBQ?

FOR CHARRIDY!!!

You can donate to a local Air Ambulance, which also do some very useful work in saving lives in the UK!

If they were cycling it, definitely in six days, I would consider donating. Just cycling it at their own pace... sounding more like a Jolly. The people unicycling it... well that's going to be a bit of work.
But taking a couple of large capacity quads designed for long distance, doing 300 miles a day (seriously, long distance bike couriers can easily do this and more as a daily thing - touring Europe on my bike 300 miles a day was an easy average) isn't exactly a 'challenge' is it?
It's just a jolly which they want some publicity for.

If they really want to earn some money for the charity, I'd be willing to bet they'd get more to donate if they found some temporary work and did that, donating all the money from that as well as the money they would have spent on the trip.

[P.addy]

As someone who has had the unfortunate luck to have had cancer, I repsect anyone doing a charity thing.

But following from what G posted about the exec of CR-UK... I stopped donating.

That and the fact I spent A LOT of my own money on treatment (which, despite it keeping me alive...I believe its a total rip off) means any charity run (which I also consider a "jolly") won't be getting any form of money.

BUT if it was BCF raising money to fund another BCF'ers treatment, i'd be bang on that...some of us are a lot less fortunate than others in terms of money.

Good luck with your charity fund raising, but maybe consider the money they would use for fuel to do that, donate that instead?

[Satvc]

I've personally given the over £5000 pounds of my own money!

G you have a real problem & I hope you never suffer with cancer ! But if you do remember what you wrote today!

[pinkyfloyd]

[P.addy]

[Satvc]

I'll let cancer research know that g said if you go for a run it will all be cured!

I've never personally suffered from cancer but many of my family have and many haven't survived. They never had money to pay for it themselves.
You were in a lucky position that you ha the money to pay for your own treatment.

Just imagine if you didn't!?? Where would you be know?

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[P.addy]

[Satvc]

Your problem???

Rude, arrogant, know it all keyboard warrior.

Probably selfish and don't give a toss about others! I'm sure my auntie who died of cancer would have loved to hear about your cancer cures! she ran 2 marathons a year and cycled everyday of her live and still got cancer! Hmm your theory out the window!!

[G]

Oh and a family member of mine did die of cancer recently.
Plenty of people die from plenty of things.
Most of those you can seriously reduce your chances by being careful - for instance riding a bike (or a quad, I forgot that actually this isn't even to do with bikes ), other leisure activities, heart disease, etc.

[pinkyfloyd]

My problem with these highly organised "Charity" events is the fact they cost a small fortune to organise. I know this because I tried to organised one the other year for the local hospital Neonatal unit.

The plan was to get as many bikers to join me in Portsmouth for a ride out to Bournemouth and back. Distance of about 70 miles round trip and in order to make it worthwhile for the cause I would have to charge around £20 per bike. As a result I pulled the plug after the first couple of meetings with the hospital fund raising team.

Costs incurred including the use of a hospital car park for the start of the venue. Letters to and from the police and emergency services, advertising, the police escort to leave Portsmouth, letters to the council and the costs just kept escalating.

I think it worked out at 60% of the money raised would end up at the charity.

Want to make a contribution to your chosen charity then do so without trying to get a huge event going. It costs too much and has to be funded with money thats better off going straight to the charity.
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[Satvc]

Oh I forgot to say this whole event is being filmed for DVD/tv production. For a series about people helping charity without a cause!

Don't worry g you'll get a mension!! Not a good one.

Thanks for all your comments, cures etc! That's me signing off!

Kind regards ant!! Xx

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[P.addy]

[pinkyfloyd]

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[colin1]

I think G is being a bit mean spirited. Yes chances of getting cancer can be reduced by educating people to look after their bodies but we still need to develop new treatments for people who have cancers that can be cured. Yes bosses of big organisations get paid a lot, but that reflects their skills, connections, and other things that help them do the job. I doubt such a big organisation would be as well run if they only had 25k to offer to someone who was going to run it.

I do however object to the use of the phrase 'crazy pair', and agree with G that going the length of the country on reliable motorised vehicles isnt really an endeavour worthy of sponsorship. I know of some policemen who are doing something similar on bicycles who have cunningly arranged sponsorship from village hotels so they get a nice free bed every night. I like that kind of ingenuity, and they are keeping themselves fit to help fight crime, which is nice.
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[Ayrton]

Although i think that G has a small point about encouraging people about how to help prevent cancer, living healthy does not necesserily mean that you wont get cancer.

As for riding bikes for a jolly to raise money, there are much better ways to raise money, that would cost less meaning more money will go to the charity.

its good that people want to help, but some people will just turn up for a jolly, not for the charity.

[G]

Developing new ways to combat cancer is of course useful; but if people claim they are doing this to try and stop others from suffering, it's definitely not the most effective thing to do.
Unfortunately I don't have the links to hand, but my comments were based on stuff I've read in the past relating to how the majority of cancers could actually be prevented, slowed, etc by people generally being healthier. It's not a panacea, but is a pretty good start if you really care about trying to help people, rather than self-publicity!

I'm not saying that big charities don't need expensive executives - I'd agree they do. But, that doesn't sit well with me donating to them.
If I'm going to donate to a charity, I personally prefer it to be a small one that is made up entirely or almost entirely of volunteers.
This avoids the massive corportate structures behind big charities, where many millions are spent on nothing to do with the charitable work. In some cases this structure still does mean they can do more with the money, but in many cases it seems to be a self-perpetuating business concern more than a charity.
Certainly the case with complete dross like this, which to my mind is a pathetic money making/marketing excise that is the worst of charity-sponsorship. Think they also use professional chuggers - another way for people's donations to get funnelled to 'corporate fat cats'.

[Blackwolf]

Whos paying for the pertol ect? Accomdation?
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[G]

Oh and it should be noted that I didn't actually offer these points up as specifically bad - I offered them up as questions and statements of fact.

That the OP took them badly and responded aggressively; to my mind suggests a lack of forethought and lack of understanding exactly what they were 'spamming'. Otherwise, I'd expect an easy answer to come back "yes, we know this is the case, but...." .