Yet another bike theft victim put on trial

bhinso · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Karma :

Saw this one today in my feed:

https://www.visordown.com/news/general/theft-victim-charged-murder-after-ramming-thief-his-motorcycle

tl;dr = Bloke wakes up to hear his bike being stolen. Pursues and rams said bike to leave the two angles fliing hi into a post.

Unfortunately one dies due to the fact that neither is wearing a helmet.

In my mind the only thing the victim did wrong was leaving the scene of the accident.

Putting him on trial for murder seems ridiculous, I'm sure he was just trying to get his bike back rather than a pre meditated intention to kill.

Some might say he did the community a service, but yet the feed is full of angles fliing high and 'justice will be done'.

Personally I'd think most people in this forum would do similar in order to protect their property. It's no wonder the police daren't chase thieves not wearing helmets.

Edit: "‘If you deliberately drive a car into a motorcycle at speed with one rider and one pillion not even wearing helmets, you must realise the inevitable consequence is the bike will crash and those on it will at least be caused grave injuries.’"

What a load of bollocks. Thumbs Up

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Nope, I'm sort of with this one. You can't really have people going around Punishering/Dredding people...(pick your anti hero) That's how real lawlessness comes about. The Police may be pretty useless, but you can't take their failings out on Criminals in a violent way. It's not how society works. The more ruthless criminals will just start claiming that people have stolen something of theirs and have them run over - again pick your level of escalation.

The thing to do is to campaign for the police to be used in a more sensible way, actually going after thefts, burglaries etc etc, and not have all their time taken up by people calling each other names on social meeeja. I actually like the idea from the states of defunding the police and using the money for mental health services and social programmes. Save the police for actual criminals rather than sectioning people, restraining people and dealing with social media crap.

(arguably the police aren't funded properly here but the ones in the US get to keep seized money and they get discounted military surplus equipment, so maybe 'defunding' in that sense doesn't work here... but I digress).
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Kris · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Guy should start a justgiving page - I'd give him £50 towards his costs. One bike thief dead, another injured. Sounds like a good cause to me.

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Robby · Dirty Old Man Joined: 16 May 2002 Karma :

First of all, he's been charged, not convicted.

Second, of course he was charged with murder, he killed someone by ramming into them with his car.

The court case can look into the reasons. You don't get to kill someone for being a thief.

Well you can, but you're not allowed to get caught. This is why I one day want to own a car detailing business and a pig farm.

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chickenstrip · Super Spammer Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Karma :

It was a mostly peaceful attempt to kill the thieves.
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bhinso · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Karma :

Kawasaki Jimbo · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Oct 2015 Karma :

The irony is these criminals know they can rely on the law to protect them so they do whatever they like, and ultimately that leads to escalating criminality. Unpunished thievery leads to even worse offences. No sympathy from me.

TaffyTDM · Spanner Monkey Joined: 15 Jul 2015 Karma :

"It was the minimum use of force that i could.use to prevent the theft of my bike, and to detain the offenders"

Now, i get it has to go to court for proper scrutiny but i would hope the learned friends understand section 3 CLA and dont expect the likes of Mikey and Malloy to be allowed to do as they likey without consequences for anyone but those who stand up to them

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Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

No sympathy for the thieves but they stole HIS bike and he chased them down with HIS can and yet:

"Mihai Dinisoae, 32, of Baldwin Avenue, Newcastle has now been charged with murder, causing serious injury by dangerous driving, driving without a licence and insurance"

Looks just like the sort of person Liam Neeson would go and find too.
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xX-Alex-Xx · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Sep 2019 Karma :

A dead bike thief is the best kind of thief. Fuck em. Middle Finger

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Ayrton · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Sep 2010 Karma :

I dont have any sympathy for the thieves, but the guy should still get charged for killing them. You cant have the untrained public trying to ram people off bikes and putting bystanders at risk. The guy also didn't have insurance or a license so he's no better than the bike thieves.

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Here's more detail than the visordown page has: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/joshua-molloy-murder-newcastle-live-19217509

Read all the updates from the day in court, the guy went full on Mad Max at them. Laughing

Why didn't they fuck off somewhere that a Vauxhall Vectra couldn't follow?

I'm slightly conflicted about this one. Neutral

arry · Super Spammer Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Karma :

Thief one was was a convicted burglar.

Thief two was a pikey.

Accused is a dodgy migrant illegal motorist.

I'm seeing no downside.

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raesewell · Traffic Copper Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Karma :

I think the driver should go to prison for at least an hour.
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Perfect!
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Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

Not exactly a typical pillar of society though is he? Immigrant with a bike and a car but no license or insurance.

Would you want this for a next door neighbour?

https://i2-prod.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article18203576.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_SGP_NEC_050520COURTseqnseqnseqn05JPG.jpg
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