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london_biker
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Bike Clamped....... How do I cut it off? Reply with quote

Hey,

I was wondering if I could get some hypothetical advice.

If my bike was to get clamped in london, incorrectly as the sign had nothing about bikes. And it was a weak clamp on just the back wheel with a metal chain being the only thing needing to be cut..... What would cut it off?

A pair of bolt cutters? Where could I buy or loan such a pair of bolt cutters (in general or in and around central london).

I don't have a mate with a van/ trailer to help and grab it as I've seen advised on this forum so I'll need to cut it off on the spot.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carry a small volt converter thing and a cheap angle grinder, that will do the job. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

That may be expensive to hire though?

Would a pair of bolt cutters not do the trick?

It's thicker than this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoEWv_QAio

but i doubt they use Abus quality chains?
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope that you are able to take a lot of flak 'cause that's what you are likely to receive.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
Carry a small volt converter thing and a cheap angle grinder, that will do the job. Thumbs Up


but you would need at least a 1000w inverter thats not small and cost over £100.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Bike Clamped....... How do I cut it off? Reply with quote

london_biker wrote:
Hey,

I was wondering if I could get some hypothetical advice.

If my bike was to get clamped in london, incorrectly as the sign had nothing about bikes. And it was a weak clamp on just the back wheel with a metal chain being the only thing needing to be cut..... What would cut it off?

A pair of bolt cutters? Where could I buy or loan such a pair of bolt cutters (in general or in and around central london).

I don't have a mate with a van/ trailer to help and grab it as I've seen advised on this forum so I'll need to cut it off on the spot.

Any ideas?

Thanks,


Sounds to me like you're asking how to steal a bike! Wink
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had accounts on this forum a few years ago when I rode a 50cc aerox. I think if I was the type to try and steal bikes I'd probably only have to ask a mate for the info.

I only want to rent the tools not buy them. I don't think many aspiring thieves use internet forums as their intelligence gathering.

So can anyone let me know if I can get out of this without giving these bastards £150 for screwing me over?
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried tentacles?
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered a hacksaw? Or go the whole hog and hire a petrol stihlsaw from HSS.

Cut the link next to the padlock and make sure you take the bits with you, leave the clamp there. Don't even enter into discussion about it if anyone comes after you. If the police are involved, say the chain was wrapped round the bike but the padlock wasn't locked into both sides of the chain. They will have a hard job proving there is a link missing from their chain and it's your word against theirs. The police have better things to do with their time than referee such a dispute.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Bike Clamped....... How do I cut it off? Reply with quote

Sham wrote:
london_biker wrote:
Hey,

I was wondering if I could get some hypothetical advice.

If my bike was to get clamped in london, incorrectly as the sign had nothing about bikes. And it was a weak clamp on just the back wheel with a metal chain being the only thing needing to be cut..... What would cut it off?

A pair of bolt cutters? Where could I buy or loan such a pair of bolt cutters (in general or in and around central london).

I don't have a mate with a van/ trailer to help and grab it as I've seen advised on this forum so I'll need to cut it off on the spot.

Any ideas?

Thanks,


Sounds to me like you're asking how to steal a bike! Wink



I'm pretty sure when people steal bikes they just use a simple set of bolt cutters..... Since this is a clamp and not a bike chain it is thicker and Im wondering if bolt cutters would do the job.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

london_biker wrote:
I've had accounts on this forum a few years ago when I rode a 50cc aerox. I think if I was the type to try and steal bikes I'd probably only have to ask a mate for the info.

I only want to rent the tools not buy them. I don't think many aspiring thieves use internet forums as their intelligence gathering.

So can anyone let me know if I can get out of this without giving these bastards £150 for screwing me over?


I think you'd be suprised just how much research into illegal activity occurs on this 'ere internet!

Edit - Mind you, £150 release fee sounds pretty fecking much like highway robbery.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Have you considered a hacksaw? Or go the whole hog and hire a petrol stihlsaw from HSS.

Cut the link next to the padlock and make sure you take the bits with you, leave the clamp there. Don't even enter into discussion about it if anyone comes after you. If the police are involved, say the chain was wrapped round the bike but the padlock wasn't locked into both sides of the chain. They will have a hard job proving there is a link missing from their chain and it's your word against theirs. The police have better things to do with their time than referee such a dispute.


Lol this is genius.

But I can imagine a hacksaw will just not even make an imprint in the thing?.... As i say its a medium sized to fairly thick chain.... About the same as the big oxford ones..."oxford monster" and it has a yellow metal plate but strangely it is just the chain that is connected.

For anyone thinking i'm some chav stealing things.... come on give me a break.... that's hardly likely now.... It's a zxr 400 and I had just been up barnet to potters bar and on to hertford.... came back popped into tesco for 2 secs and bam! (i'm amazed they were so quick as this was 10 PM)
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or totally legally. A rear wheel for most bikes costs about £45 from a breakers and will often have a tyre fitted. They can do exactly nothing about you removing the wheel and fitting another one then leaving the original wheel in the clamp.

There is a video on youtube of a Polish guy jacking up his van and dismantling the front suspension, sliding the clamp off then reassembling it again while being watched by a policeman.
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Or totally legally. A rear wheel for most bikes costs about £45 from a breakers and will often have a tyre fitted. They can do exactly nothing about you removing the wheel and fitting another one then leaving the original wheel in the clamp.

There is a video on youtube of a Polish guy jacking up his van and dismantling the front suspension, sliding the clamp off then reassembling it again while being watched by a policeman.


That would be great but removing the wheel is a bit beyond me technically and I'm on a bit of a timelimit because I think they will probably by tomorrow just stick it on a truck and then charge me even more to get it.

Will bolt cutters not be best?
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually now you mention this rear wheel idea. My brother actually has the exact same bike (mine is 1999 his is 2002).... So I could remove his rear and stick it on mine...

How do I remove a rear wheel please? And then how do I fit a new one?
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The size of the chain is unimportant. It's what it's made of.

If it's just a bit of cheap shite mild-steel chain (probably is), a hacksaw will go through it like butter. If it's hardened steel, it'll prove much more difficult.

Look to see if there is anything stamped on the links. If it has nothing for 20 links, it's probably cheap shite. If it has an 8, 80, 10, 100, P or T stamped onto a link, it's bad news and you'll need power tools.
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 01 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
The size of the chain is unimportant. It's what it's made of.

If it's just a bit of cheap shite mild-steel chain (probably is), a hacksaw will go through it like butter. If it's hardened steel, it'll prove much more difficult.

Look to see if there is anything stamped on the links. If it has nothing for 20 links, it's probably cheap shite. If it has an 8, 80, 10, 100, P or T stamped onto a link, it's bad news and you'll need power tools.


Ok to be honest it just looked like a cheap flimsy clamp.... The chain was kinda thick but I doubt it was high quality..... So if it is hardened steel etc will a standard pair of bolt cutters not even do it?


.... Probably best try a cheap hacksaw first?
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

london_biker wrote:
So if it is hardened steel etc will a standard pair of bolt cutters not even do it?


.... Probably best try a cheap hacksaw first?


If it's the size you say it is and hardened steel, you might do it with really big bolt croppers.

Use a cheap hacksaw with a good quality bimetallic blade. Don't use draper blades or the one that came with it.
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
london_biker wrote:
So if it is hardened steel etc will a standard pair of bolt cutters not even do it?


.... Probably best try a cheap hacksaw first?


If it's the size you say it is and hardened steel, you might do it with really big bolt croppers.

Use a cheap hacksaw with a good quality bimetallic blade. Don't use draper blades or the one that came with it.


Which do you think I should try? Probably only got one shot at it and about 10 mins to do it in as they have CCTV.
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr-inteligent wrote:
Skudd wrote:
Carry a small volt converter thing and a cheap angle grinder, that will do the job. Thumbs Up


but you would need at least a 1000w inverter thats not small and cost over £100.


Mine cost me £24 and the angle grinder cost £16.

Obviously i didn't get them just for the one job. You don't need a massive thing, just something that tucks in to the top box or have handy in the shed for a mate to pick up.
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pictures of said clamp
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Bike Clamped....... How do I cut it off? Reply with quote

london_biker wrote:
Hey,

I was wondering if I could get some hypothetical advice.

If my bike was to get clamped in london, incorrectly as the sign had nothing about bikes. And it was a weak clamp on just the back wheel with a metal chain being the only thing needing to be cut..... What would cut it off?

A pair of bolt cutters? Where could I buy or loan such a pair of bolt cutters (in general or in and around central london).

I don't have a mate with a van/ trailer to help and grab it as I've seen advised on this forum so I'll need to cut it off on the spot.

Any ideas?

Thanks,


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PostPosted: 00:58 - 02 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

A gas-axe would do it quietly and quickly. You just need to be able to lug it there and back.
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