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Fnatic
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: ER6F for first real bike, yes or death? Reply with quote

Haven't been on here for a while. My current bike is an Aprilia RS125 but I haven't ridden that for a little while now. Need a bigger, more reliable bike to commute from Leicester to London probably 8 times a month and to use as a general bike. Want something to keep for 3 years while I'm at University.

I've seen a few tidy examples of the <2008 models around. Low mileage and stuff for around £3000. Insurance is about £500 TPFT for a 20 year old, home address in London and 2 years NCB. Anyone know whether I should get the ABS model or not as well?

I will be riding this on an A2 so anyone got any idea what these are like under restriction but I have heard them restrictors are prone to falling out. Wink

Talk to me.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect first bike IMO. Light, not too powerful. Quick enough to beat nearly all cars off of the lights, easy to ride, comfortable etc etc.

Shouldn't be too bad restricted either.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get one go for ABS, I did, hopefully will not need to use it in anger, but when I do it'll be there.
IMO it's a good step up bike bike from a 125, not stupid quick but quick enough to thrill (scare) me.

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PostPosted: 14:43 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, decent first bike, I'd say.

I wasn't a beginner when I got mine, but I can see why it'd be a good choice. It's light, easy to maneuver, good in traffic, fairly economical and plenty punchy if you get it above 6k rpm.

Mine's the ABS model and I've only really noticed it cutting in once, which was my fault anyway. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above - friggen small though, or at least the ER6-n I sat on last week was.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did my test on one of those.

Pretty powerful, not as much as a 4 cylinder 600.

I would say similar sort of performance range as a GPZ 500 which is plenty fast for first bike.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

snorty wrote:
Did my test on one of those.

Pretty powerful, not as much as a 4 cylinder 600.

I would say similar sort of performance range as a GPZ 500 which is plenty fast for first bike.


Its about 65bhp. A bit more than a sports 400 but quite a bit less than a sports 600 and a fair bit more than a GPZ500S.
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
snorty wrote:
Did my test on one of those.

Pretty powerful, not as much as a 4 cylinder 600.

I would say similar sort of performance range as a GPZ 500 which is plenty fast for first bike.


Its about 65bhp. A bit more than a sports 400 but quite a bit less than a sports 600 and a fair bit more than a GPZ500S.


Thought a GPZ was 60hp? A ZXR400 puts out 59hp as well. It's only a twin after all.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an ER-6n, bought it 3 years ago. For 2 years rode it restricted on an A2 license. Great bike, cheap and reliable but not boring. Proper bike sized feel to it, quite substantial.

When I took the restrictor out I didn't notice much difference, the torque on it is great.

Why don't you buy a new one? The bouncy suspension and vibeyness of the old ones are supposed to be fixed now.

0% interest free finance, £99 deposit then about a hundred a month. I'm almost tempted to get a new one myself ... (but it would be ER-6f for the winter).
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

snorty wrote:
Thought a GPZ was 60hp? A ZXR400 puts out 59hp as well. It's only a twin after all.


GPZ is something like 45bhp, and the ZXR is 60bhp on a good day. A good SV650 makes 69bhp, and I'd expect the ER6 to be broadly similar.

Plus the GPZ is a lot heavier than any of those bikes.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

They appear to be kawasakis competitor to Suzukis SV650, when i rode one i liked it but not enough to chop the SV in against one, the SV just suits me better, looking at the specs everything is "near as makes no differance" between the 2, 4cc engine size, 1 bhp and only about 10KG of weight

It will probably be an ECU restriction rather than the old washers and throttle stoppers method, nice and easy to swap the brain yourself Wink
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The restrictor is a small screw that acts as a throttle stop.

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PostPosted: 15:54 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

71bhp apparently, plenty of great reviews.

You won't find anything in that age and price range that's much more sensible. Insurance group is 10; if you want lower, you'll need an SV650 or late model CBF500, both at group 9.

It's my default choice for when my restriction runs out next year - I'll need a good reason to buy something else. The only down-sides that I can see are no fuel gauge or centre stand, and I think I can live with that.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fairness, I'm trying to think of a bike I had with a fuel gauge...

Nope.

It's got a light, though. I just usually fill it about 130 miles in.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sv has a 2 stage light, it flashes at about 1 gallon left and goes to being on constant at 2 litres... I have had 180+ miles before its started flashing before now, another time it was on before 130.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the ER, much depends on how I ride it. If I pootle about, it'll do 150, if I rant it, 120. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the advice guys, looking at a 2008 model, 1000 mi on the clock for £3000. Looks like a good price. Insurance of £500 is surprisingly low too.
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnatic wrote:
Cheers for the advice guys, looking at a 2008 model, 1000 mi on the clock for £3000. Looks like a good price. Insurance of £500 is surprisingly low too.


Sounds like a bargain, I paid about that for my SV with 8400 miles on a 06 plate last October... If it's as straight as it sounds then you can't go far wrong with that.

I don't know what the corrosion proofing is like on them but a treatment with ACF-50 cant hurt if you plan to use it over winter.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just run in. Smile

e2a: Mine spent the first 5 years of it's life (it's an 06) outdoors, under a cover at night. It's got a couple of tiny rust spots and bubbles on the frame, but otherwise, it's survived remarkably well. And is now garaged.


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PostPosted: 16:18 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbot wrote:
In fairness, I'm trying to think of a bike I had with a fuel gauge...

Nope.

It's got a light, though. I just usually fill it about 130 miles in.


Although I havent had a centre stand for about 8 years (and kind of miss having one), my last bike had a fuel gauge. It worked enough to give a representation of what was in there but I wouldnt have trusted it that much. Bit of a distraction really.

Now Im back to the lights and the amber gambler warning on the mille!
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one as a loan bike for 6 months and commuted from Derby to Bristol 5 times a month on it. Great little bike, plenty of power and quite fun to ride (wheelies very easily) I would love one as a second bike.

One thing to look out for is the exhausts, the split at the cat. Mine was frixed 3 times prior to goung back. Anyway they sound awesome with a can on instead!
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine's just had that done, as well. It's cos there's nothing supporting the weight except the joint of the downpipe and box.

An S bracket will solve that, cheaply (said the mechanic who changed my downpipe). Smile
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like mine, I commute 30 miles each way every day on it , (it is the f), more than enough power, agile enough to keep up on the twisties etc etc etc. I changed my can to an MTC so not had the problems others have. Sounds loud as well.

I have a restrictor kit going spare. It's a throttle screw and a plug that goes in a diagnostics connection under the seat, simple to fit and simple to remove.
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr_fisty wrote:
One thing to look out for is the exhausts, the split at the cat. Mine was frixed 3 times prior to goung back. Anyway they sound awesome with a can on instead!


Damn, mine's currently at the garrage getting welded as we speak. If it cracks again I'm getting a new exhaust.

Mind you that would be a great excuse for a new bike instead!

sebastianw wrote:
I have a restrictor kit going spare. It's a throttle screw and a plug that goes in a diagnostics connection under the seat, simple to fit and simple to remove.

What is this plug that you speak of? I only took the screw out ... Embarassed
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 16 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it'd be a great first big bike, i've even considered getting an ER6 for a trusty back-up bike I can count on! Smile
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