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PostPosted: 16:23 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: 1987 cbr1000f big heavy tourer, anyone owned one ? Reply with quote

I've seen one cheap, its £450. Its got no fairings, but looks fairly tidy.

Im used to light bikes scooters, small dirt bikes, a sports bike 600.

Can someone give me an idea of what they are like to own.

I'm thinking relaxed leisurely cruising either on A-roads or motorways, maybe a bit of touring.

It did occur to me that it might be a bit heavy to take onto a camp site though.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They aren't much bigger than the equivalent 600F tbh. The riding position is virtually the same, upright with your feet in line with your shoulders, which makes it nice and comfortable.

I've done 1000s of touring miles on my 600F and I can only imagine that the 1000 will be more comfortable and more planted.

£450 is a steal, but its the big windshield and fairings which make a tourer comfortable.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said they are hardly big and heavy compared to most bikes but being used to a scooter you will need to adjust.

Camp sites are no problem and with all the power any riding will be relaxed if you plan staying on A-roads and Motorways.
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although mostly I ride a scooter which is about 100kg, sometimes i ride a 600 which is 160kg.

But the cb1000f is 260kg wet weight which is the weight of the two combined, so it is significantly heavier than the average bike.

Thanks for the opinions guys, but I'm still hoping for someone who has ridden one, or even better, owned one for a while.

They may just say the same things that we are guessing about, but they may have a bit more insight.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a big heavy brute compared to anything even slightly modern. My brother has had 2 of them, both had bodywork that would crack given a stern look and panels aren't easy to find or cheap. Brakes rot & bind (and sturggle to stop the bike) and ridden hard they are heavy on consumables.

£450 is cheap for one with excellent consumables and a tidy engine but if you're looking at a bike with nearly-shagged chain & tyres or a rattly engine then it's too much money.
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode one briefly. It was very comfortable, very stable and very easy to go far too fast on without really noticing.

What my mates referr to as a "speedbarge".

I was also put off by tales of various chains inside the engine having a tendancy to let go. As said, £450 is cheap but beware of a death rattle!
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Camper vans are quite heavy, they go on camp sites Smile
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, but if a camper van slips on wet grass, it doesnt fall over

I think I might go and have a look at this one and see if I can detect any hint of a rattle.

Or I might leave it, as I dont really need it, I'm just being greedy.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin, the weight of the bike won't make much of a difference on a campsite at 5mph trying to get to your tent. A mate recently turned up at the BMF on his R6 (08) and managed to slip on the grass and drop it.

If you are shit at bike control on wet grass you can drop anything, but at least it is soft.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go on Col, you can never have too many bikes.... Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Many years ago I took one for a spin. Speedbarge is an appropriate description.

Quite big and heavy. Claimed dry weight was 222kg (compared to the CBR600 of the same time at 182kg).

They did have a dodgy reputation for the cam chains (Hondas last really dodgy cam chain setup).

Early ones like that were as ugly as sin with the bodywork on. And the bodywork was designed to hide the even uglier chassis.

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PostPosted: 20:35 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

strag wrote:
Colin, the weight of the bike won't make much of a difference on a campsite at 5mph trying to get to your tent. A mate recently turned up at the BMF on his R6 (08) and managed to slip on the grass and drop it.

If you are shit at bike control on wet grass you can drop anything, but at least it is soft.


I'd sooner try to pick up something thats 180kg than something thats 260kg.

In fact I'm not convinced that on wet grass, i could pick up a 260kg bike.

I know I can pickup a 600 from wet grass, because I've dropped one and picked it up.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do decide then the service manual is here.

A quick look on eBay shows plenty of parts available. Whether that's good or bad I guess is a matter of opinion Wink

If you have an interest in big old tourers then the Kawasaki GTR1000 would be worth a look. I mention it as I looked into it and thought of getting one myself a while back.

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PostPosted: 20:51 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
...In fact I'm not convinced that on wet grass, i could pick up a 260kg bike.

I know I can pickup a 600 from wet grass, because I've dropped one and picked it up.

Don't be a baby, it's straightforward.

There is a technique to pick it up, with your back to the bike - to see this method click here.
There are other examples out there - do a google.
If a girlie can do it with a big tourer then you've no excuse Wink

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PostPosted: 20:52 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even girls can do it Colin...you really don't want it do you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sP3cqKbOEs
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imagine trying that on wet grass.

Its really not going to be as easy as in that vid walking back into it, as your feet would slip.

You would have to pick it up, ie straight back, bend knees, grab it, stand up.

I do want it, but I'm not sure its practical. Sometimes a bargain can be a waste of money in the long run.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin. I want you to hit yourself. Do it now, an open handed slap across the back of the head would be favourite.

Thanks. It's just I can't reach from here.

How easily it can be picked up has to be about the worst basis I ever heard of for choosing a roadgoing motorcycle.

Besides which. In the remote instance you drop one on wet grass at a campsite a) You wont do any damage and b) You can enlist the help of one of your fellow campers to help pick it up again.

Then there is: c) You could just park it on hard standing and walk the 100yds or so to the tent pitch.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

What he said ^^^^^^
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Colin. I want you to hit yourself. Do it now, an open handed slap across the back of the head would be favourite.

Thanks. It's just I can't reach from here.

How easily it can be picked up has to be about the worst basis I ever heard of for choosing a roadgoing motorcycle.

Besides which. In the remote instance you drop one on wet grass at a campsite a) You wont do any damage and b) You can enlist the help of one of your fellow campers to help pick it up again.

Then there is: c) You could just park it on hard standing and walk the 100yds or so to the tent pitch.


Being able to pick it up is not the only reason it might not be practical, I'm just exploring all aspects.

It is possible to damage a bike by dropping it on wet grass, I know, I've done it.

There may be campers around who might to want to help pick it up, and there might not be.

I'd agree that parking it on a non-grassed area would probably be the best option if its available.

At the moment, the mysterious internal chains are more of a concern than my ability to pick it up on wet grass, but its still a consideration.

I like to consider all relevant factors before making as big a decision as buying a motorbike.

I think I want it, but I'm not convinced yet.

There are some positives and some negatives.

I'm not about to hit myself, as I believe that careful consideration before a potential purchase is important.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:24 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably the most useful thing you have said so far...
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh Colin, you are starting with abuse, thats a shame cos I actually quite like your posts. I thought I had just been offering a different perspective to your thinking.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats not abuse, i just havnt found your input useful possibly because you have had a few gins. People have said far worse to me on here, when they havnt found my input useful.

Your first point was that camper vans are heavy

your second related point was that weight wouldnt make any difference on wet grass when of course it will

your third point was a method of picking up a bike that wouldnt work on wet grass

and then your fourth was to agree with stink, when he was being a bit arsey, after being helpful earlier

Abuse would be if I said something a bit stronger than that you hadnt said anything useful to me.

I have no reason to make derogatory comments on you as a person, just that you havnt been helpful to me in this situation.

Keep tucking in to that gin. Its true that you have offered a different perspective. Im sorry if you are wounded that I didnt find it useful.

As entertaining posts, they were fine, but in helping me think about a cb1000f, they were just distracting.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin, I too have no need to make derogatory comments to you, as a person however, your view is somewhat limited.

I am sorry you have not found my 'input' particularly useful, having a few gins (how do you know how many I have had) has nothing to do with anything.

If you can't pick up a bike, tough mate and, SW is right unless you are on a campsite in the middle of nowhere, there will always be someone to help you lift a bike.

I am not wounded either... Wink I've coped with worse.

And don't be so easily distracted, it's a bike, its a bit heavy but hey, I am sure many others have dealt with it.

If you are worried about the weight, I am selling my Gixer 1000 K5, thats quite a light bike, PM me if interested.
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