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Fifteen15
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Best BUDGET chain? Reply with quote
I need to buy a security chain however I have very little money to buy one with. I know chains shouldn't really be bought on a budget but I have no choice. Any recommendations?
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Best BUDGET chain? Reply with quote
ImNoSuperman wrote:
I need to buy a chain however I have very little money to buy one with. I know chains shouldn't really be bought on a budget but I have no choice. Any recommendations?



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-BIKE-SECURITY-CHAIN-DISC-LOCK-1M-/270496036571?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3efad1f6db#ht_2479wt_1139

theres a cheap chain and lock set........ looks chunky enough...but havent tried one myself.

It locks very similar to the one im using though
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
A security chain to chain it up with or a final drive chain to make the wheel go round?

For security chain, see if there are any lifting equipment companies round and about you (try the yellow pages). Pop in round the back and ask them for a bit of grade 80 load chain. They are quite likely have an off-cut or some worn stuff that's been taken off a piece of lifting equipment lying about. They land up replacing a lot of chains which are 90% ok, the bit that runs through the hoist gets worn past a certain limit and the whole thing has to be replaced. The end the hook is attached to never sees any real wear.

For final drive chain, cheap ones are a false economy at best, dangerous at worst.
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Fifteen15
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Best BUDGET chain? Reply with quote
SnowTigeress wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-BIKE-SECURITY-CHAIN-DISC-LOCK-1M-/270496036571?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3efad1f6db#ht_2479wt_1139

theres a cheap chain and lock set........ looks chunky enough...but havent tried one myself.

It locks very similar to the one im using though

Thanks, I'll probably end up buying this.

stinkwheel wrote:
A security chain to chain it up with or a final drive chain to make the wheel go round?

Sorry should have made it clearer. I meant security chain.

stinkwheel wrote:
For security chain, see if there are any lifting equipment companies round and about you (try the yellow pages). Pop in round the back and ask them for a bit of grade 80 load chain. They are quite likely have an off-cut or some worn stuff that's been taken off a piece of lifting equipment lying about. They land up replacing a lot of chains which are 90% ok, the bit that runs through the hoist gets worn past a certain limit and the whole thing has to be replaced. The end the hook is attached to never sees any real wear.

Never thought or heard about this before. But how do you know whether the chains they are using are as strong, or stronger than the cheaper security chains?
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Best BUDGET chain? Reply with quote
ImNoSuperman wrote:

Never thought or heard about this before. But how do you know whether the chains they are using are as strong, or stronger than the cheaper security chains?


A reasonably thick bit of through hardened load chain (grade 80 or 100 are the toughest) cannot be cut with bolt croppers, not even big ones, you'll bend the pins in the bolt croppers if you try. The stuff I have is designed to suspend 16 tonnes as a safe working load. Breaking strain will be 3 times that.

You cut it with a bench mounted cutting disc and you have to go through both sides of the link, it won't bend open if you cut one side.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Best BUDGET chain? Reply with quote
ImNoSuperman wrote:
Never thought or heard about this before. But how do you know whether the chains they are using are as strong, or stronger than the cheaper security chains?

Because they lift twenty ton concrete trucks up with them?
Wouldn't be 100% sure that made them stronger than something with a Ride rating, but would certainly give me confidence it was strong 'enough'!

Try your local market, e-bay, pound shop, or bargain bazzare hardware shop.

ANY chain, is better than NO chain.......

You can get cheap 1" link security chains with padlock for under a tenner. They wont offer the umpety minutes diamond bit cutting resistance of something from a top name marketing co.... but they will deter the opportunist just as well. Meanwhile, any-one not put off by it, and tooled up to go through a chain..... well, they will as like be able to go through a high grade granite as they are a cheapo aldi special... it will just take them a few moments longer.... which may give you some satisfaction, but practical benefit as far as I'm concerned is minimal!

So what, takes them three minutes longer to crack it.... if they are that deturmined, what will the time it takes to listen to a motown record actually do? Will it give me time to discover them, and challenge them? Even if it did, would I REALLY want to?

"Err Excuse me Mr very large, angry looking proffessional Bike thief with very large petrol powered, fourteen inch diamond blade angle grinder in your hand.... do you mind turning that thing off, its making such a noise, it woke me up, and could PLEASE just leave my bike alone and go steal some elses?"

Yeah! I think NOT!

Could call the police, but I'd probably be on 'hold' listening to an automated answering service for an entire Motown anthology album, let alone the length of a record, before I actually got to speak to anyone, and even if I did... AND they sent some-one out to 'attend'... yeah..... 3 minutes would still be pretty insignificant, wouldn't it!
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Fifteen15
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Best BUDGET chain? Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
ImNoSuperman wrote:

Never thought or heard about this before. But how do you know whether the chains they are using are as strong, or stronger than the cheaper security chains?


A reasonably thick bit of through hardened load chain (grade 80 or 100 are the toughest) cannot be cut with bolt croppers, not even big ones, you'll bend the pins in the bolt croppers if you try. The stuff I have is designed to suspend 16 tonnes as a safe working load. Breaking strain will be 3 times that.

You cut it with a bench mounted cutting disc and you have to go through both sides of the link, it won't bend open if you cut one side.

Thanks I didn't know that, I'll have a look around.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 19 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
1" think Grade 80 chain can lift 21 tonnes.

To put that in motorcycling perspective, one chain can lift 72 ~ ST1100 Pan European's

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