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Howling TerrorOutOfOffice
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 25 Aug 2011    Post subject: Double H Sintered on the rear. Reply with quote

My new pads have arrived then it dawned on me. Should i be using organics on the rear?
e.g. Anyone find the sintered pads giving too much bite and occasionally locking the rear?

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BTW The pads are EBC HH. Noticed they have micro-grooves cut into the rear pad material....presume they bed-in sooner.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 25 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Double H Sintered on the rear. Reply with quote

Never paid much attention either way, but most of the time I find it's easier to just not press the pedal as hard, or press it harder.

Though, to be fair thinking about it... on my light weight KTMs (ie <100kg) they use the same rear brake as my 690 which is probably circa 150kg, then the option to have 26l of fuel.

So it's a tad under-perforing on the big 4 stroke, while it easily locks the rear with the clutch out on the diddy 2 strokes. I ended up filing a big chunk of the 200 rear pads to give them less power, which seemed to do the job ok.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 25 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm probably over-thinking things. Embarassed Maybe as i won't have time to 'learn' them before i take pillion and luggage at the weekend.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 25 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pillion will mean it's a fair bit less likely to lock up and you could probably do with the extra power.

But then why are you using the rear brake in such situations anyway; the purpose of the rear brake is to keep a slide initiated with gears going, surely?
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 25 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^My bad. Laughing
OT.

Have talked about doing a 2up trackday with my daughter. As she goes horseriding and rock climbing it's only a matter of time....and me finding the guts to do it.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 25 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No such thing, I'm afraid.

If you're lucky, might manage some 2up drag racing, but suspect insurance rules are going to be tightening on that sort of thing.

Though, find me a local kart track that does supermoto pit bikes and she's welcome to have a play with mine(*).

No excuse for you not to do one, presuming you haven't, however Wink.

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PostPosted: 21:18 - 25 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i run organic pads on the rear on road and track
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 25 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have those exact pads on the rear of my CBR...brand new a couple of weeks ago, not locked the rear up yet! (well...not intentionally)
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Re: Double H Sintered on the rear. Reply with quote

CB250RS wrote:
My new pads have arrived then it dawned on me. Should i be using organics on the rear?
e.g. Anyone find the sintered pads giving too much bite and occasionally locking the rear?

Ta.

BTW The pads are EBC HH. Noticed they have micro-grooves cut into the rear pad material....presume they bed-in sooner.


I've locked the rear on sintered HH pads when practicing emergency stops, it didn't take a lot tbh and if it was a real emergency when not thinking clearly, not perfectly prepared etc I reckon I'd have locked it again. Next set I put on I used organics and they are much better (i.e. shitter but in a good way) in "panic like" situations.

In other words you will be fine but I would practice emergency braking using both brakes in wet and dry to get a feel for them.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a set of HH pads in the rear of both dirt bikes.They cut through the water/dirt mud a lot better.

The only downside that I might have about using HH pads in the rear of the road bikes is increased wear to the disc.But many pad manufactureres suggest using a GG pad on the back disc.But,as has been suggested,cutting away part of the pad material is a good way of reducing the ability of inadvertantly locking up the back wheel.
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzer Thou wrote:


The only downside that I might have about using HH pads in the rear of the road bikes is increased wear to the disc.




My bike has done 50k miles and has always had sintered pads an is on original front discs and they are well within spec. It is poor maintenance that causes discs to go IMO
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 26 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive a rear HH on the bike for road and track but in fairness its a gold-fren so its purposely a bit crap!

Can still lock the rear easily enough but usually not much of a problem.

I think you're overthinking it Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back from a weekend of biking.
A noticeable improvement. The original pads were Brembo and i liked them, but with the EBC i do seem to get a better bite and still retain what little 'feel' i had before.
Only locked up once..about 10miles from home...i've locked up the rear there before (downhill into a r/bout)

I saw a 2up trackday vid..was convinced it was uk based. Confused
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 28 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB250RS wrote:

I saw a 2up trackday vid..was convinced it was uk based. Confused

Seems unlikely at all recently, unless we're talking a special event where 'pro' riders take punters out for a lap at BSB, etc.

The logistics of it at a nomral track day do scare me a bit.

However, go to a foreign run trackday on the continent, and you can probably get away with it at some point.
At the Bemsee round in a france there were people taking pillions out after the racing with no helmets on either and various other tom foolery. Someone had a scooby around the track shortly before midnight (no lights bar car head lights). The 675 series practice in Spain saw no marshals and a similar lack of worry for traditional rules etc.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 29 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used some EBC HH on the rear. Were rather shit tbh, binned them in favour of some Nissin pads.
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