how can I get a provisional without a passport

[Jay99]

I have no passport and no national insurance card, and the DWP won't send me a letter.
Requirements without passport:
UK birth and adoption certificates
UK birth and adoption certificates can also be used, however, as they are not absolute proof of identity, they must be accompanied by one of the following:
National Insurance card or a letter from the Department for Work and Pensions containing your National Insurance number
photocopy of the front page of a benefits book or an original benefits claim letter
P45, P60 or pay slip
marriage certificate or divorce papers (decree nisi or absolute)
college or university union card or school record

I'm nearly 16 but I have already booked my CBT on the day after my birthday (stupid I know) without a licence yet! I do have a birth certificate but whats a school record? I'm going into year 11 now, so can I ask my teacher for one or something? I can apply for a provisional now if I wanted to and it takes 2 weeks to arrive

Thanks.

[lihp]

have you not been issued an NI number yet?

[kerr]

im sure when i first got my car licence all you needed was a note on the back of your photo from a doctor/teacher.
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[ajbsmirnoff]

Its probably a letter from your school (someone trustworthy) confirming that you are 'you', you exist, and you attend that 'school'.

Plus whatever you got for biology that year.

[Jay99]

nope, they say that they'll send me my ni when I turn 16.

[trippz]

[Vexon101]

[anthony_r6]

You'll get your NI Card before you turn 16 and it took my provisional (Car) license a week to turn up. If you're in doubt about whether or not you'll make the CBT - phone them and see if they'll postpone. Make sure it's your full Birth Certificate with your parent(s) on it, and the signer is supposed to be a professional of some sort that have known you for 3(?) years.
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[SweenyT]

Just a thought.......As you have your birth certificate (I assume it's the full and not the short one), is there any reason why you can't apply for your passport in the meantime? It usually takes around 2-3 weeks to get an interview appointment as it'll be your first adult one and then roughly a week for it to arrive. You can then use your passport to verify your licence application and get a teacher/doctor/dentist/lawyer - not a relative - to sign the declaration and photo.

When do you turn 16? If it's in another couple of months then you should have enough time.

Also your NI number usually comes just before or just after your 16th birthday. Trippz if you haven't got yours yet then you should chase them up. You might want to say that you might have an opportunity to work part time so you need the number asap.
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[Slacker24seve...]

You should have had your NI number well before now.

Ring this number: 0845 915 7006 thats the HMRC helpline. Do it sooner rather than later, its important.
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[Jay99]

You can apply for your provisional @ 15 years and 9 months
My birthday is on the 10th october
I doubt I'll even get my NI card because my sister had to chase hers up and its just impossible, so I asked them to send a letter but they've said no
I'm waiting until I'm 16 to get my passport because its a waste of money now because It will only last for 5 years but after 16 it'll be 10. Also I don't have the money as my parents wont fork out another £60 and then £50 for the provisional as they have to pay for just about everything else.

But I can use my school record with my full birth certificate, but what is it?

[SweenyT]

I'm not 100% sure but this is some excerpts of the info I've googled...

Educational records

Parents, and pupils who are 16 or over, have had the right to see local education authority (LEA) school records for a number of years. The DPA has now extended this right to younger pupils. There is no minimum age: any pupil who makes a written request to see their school records is entitled to do so, unless the pupil does not have the ability to understand what they are asking for. The right applies to any information produced by a teacher, an education welfare officer or an employee of the LEA. Access must be given within 15 days.

In addition to the general exemptions in the DPA:

Information likely to cause serious harm to the pupil or someone else's physical or mental health is exempt.
Information about a possible risk of child abuse can be withheld from a parent if disclosure would not be in the child's best interests.
Educational records can be inspected free of charge. Photocopying charges are limited to a maximum of £1 for the first 20 pages, plus a further £1 for every subsequent 10 pages, up to a maximum of £50. This maximum applies regardless of how many pages are supplied.

Applying for information

You should make your application in writing to the body which holds the information you want. Your letter should say that you are asking for the information under the Open Government Code of Practice, and ask for a reply to be sent to you within 20 days - the Code's target response time. Make your request as specific as possible: this will reduce your chances of being charged a fee, or having your request turned down altogether.

If you are not sure who to send your request to, a list of 'open government contacts' in each department and agency can be obtained from the Internet at https://www.lcd.gov.uk/foi/codprac00/10app06.htm.

All above info supplied by The Campaign for Freedom of Information https://www.cfoi.org.uk/persfilesintro.html

I would personally apply to my school and see if they know exactly what's required and if they can provide it.

If you are planning to wait until you're 16 to get your passport and you don't get your NI letter by at the latest the week before your birthday or manage to get your school record before then, then you'd be better off postponing your CBT for around 2 months. That way you'll have ample time to either get your passport then your licence or get your school record and get your licence.

I remember getting mine about a month or two before my 16th so let's hope you're one of the lucky ones who get their NI before their actual birthday.

Good luck.

PS. DPA = Data Protection Act
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