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Xdwardo500
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Petrol Stations ~ Petrol/Diesel Spills Reply with quote

So me and my mate were out riding on Sunday, and decided to pull into the 24H Tesco's in Lincoln, to fill up, before heading out for a another blast.

Pulling into one of the many petrol pump bays however, the entire floor was soaked in petrol/diesel/oil, and was as slippery as hell. I almost lost my footing getting off the bike! As I was taking my helmet off, my friend a few bays down also lost his footing and yelled, "Arrgh diesel!"

Is there some sort of standard, in order to keep petrol bay floors clean? Is it a case of complaining about this, or is it something we have to just live with?
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

We live with it to a degree.

Same as the concrete gully installed at my local shell garage..hit it at the wrong angle on a wet day and it catches many a rider out. I mentioned it to the manager...same as when i have to ride around the pumps looking for the least wet bay. I get palmed off with excuses or indifference.

Not arsed enough to write letters for the obvious reasons...'We strive to...I am so sorry....Have a leaflet'....etc
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tip

Pull as close to the pump as possible, avoiding the patches.

But never assume they are not there and always go to the pump, both feet down at a very slow speed.

Then also take care after you have filled and are getting off the bike. Generally I push myself forward out the way anyway so the grounds dry of fuel when I put the bike on its sidestand.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You rode into a fuel station and then act surprised that there is fuel on the floor? Rolling Eyes. Common sense dictates to look ahead of you at where you are going and if there is any fuel on the floor to avoid it, not ride straight into it.

You can't expect the fuel station workers to jump out there with a bit of sand/concrete dust or whatever every single time some berk spills fuel otherwise they'd be out there forever and then people would start complaining it takes too long to buy the fuel!

Personally, I've ridden through a lot of fuel at slow speeds in fuel stations and such on all of my bikes and at slow speeds it just isn't slippery at all if you are upright and plan to ride on it. If you look ahead, know you have to ride through it so get the bike sat upright and centred you will be fine riding on/through it. Likewise when you ride away, keep it upright for a bit to get the remaining fuel off your tyres and then you'll be fine.

The problems come when people don't look far enough ahead so are surprised by it, then they hit it too fast/at the wrong angle so get thrown off/drop the bike/have a nasty moment.

I'm not saying you can avoid every single drop of fuel so you will never have a nasty moment but the majority of crashes on fuel that bikers blame on the fuel: "Ugh man bloody diesel! It's everywhere! It's lethal and something should be done about it!" could be avoided if the biker in question looked farther ahead.
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the diesel on my soles i don't like..slippy on the pegs and kickstart until i drag them abit. Casey Stoner does this when leaving the pits although i suspect it is just a 'racers habit'.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
You rode into a fuel station and then act surprised that there is fuel on the floor? Rolling Eyes. Common sense dictates to look ahead of you at where you are going and if there is any fuel on the floor to avoid it, not ride straight into it.


I did "look ahead", however being pretty inexperienced at filling up on a bike, and not expecting the floor to be in that much a state, I was taken a little by surprise. I'll do my best from now on to avoid the worse bays, or at least avoid them as much as possible when parking up.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xdwardo500 wrote:
Paulington wrote:
You rode into a fuel station and then act surprised that there is fuel on the floor? Rolling Eyes. Common sense dictates to look ahead of you at where you are going and if there is any fuel on the floor to avoid it, not ride straight into it.


I did "look ahead", however being pretty inexperienced at filling up on a bike, and not expecting the floor to be in that much a state, I was taken a little by surprise. I'll do my best from now on to avoid the worse bays, or at least avoid them as much as possible when parking up.

Yeah, that's the best thing to do, really. Going in to complain/writing a letter won't do anything so if you want to make a difference you have to do it yourself. Good on you.

Yes, as you said. When I first started riding I was pretty shocked too but you get used to it, you don't notice it in a car but on a bike it's striking.
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pull up, floor is slippery, get their bucket of sand and empty it on the floor, all of it around your bike and where you are going to put your foot down to get back on the bike, and don't make too much of an effort to tidy it up either.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:
I'm not saying you can avoid every single drop of fuel so you will never have a nasty moment but the majority of crashes on fuel that bikers blame on the fuel: "Ugh man bloody diesel! It's everywhere! It's lethal and something should be done about it!" could be avoided if the biker in question looked farther ahead.


It is actually very difficult to see on normal tarmac, unless wet. That's why it is so dangerous. Sadly when Diesel is involved it's not normally the riders fault so I can sympathise.

In petrol stations you can generally see when the floor is 'wet' as they use a concrete like floor.

I've been caught out a few times. The first time it happened scared the shit out of me!
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 31 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The station I go to the most is always covered in the stuff, the staff are usually pretty good about it, I mention it and as I leave they will go out there and put some sand/dust down.

They've had a tanker spill it all across the road just out side of it the other day, its mixed with the cement dust that they put down and just turned into balls of gloop in the gutter.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 01 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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