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| TimNorwich |
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 Posted: 17:39 - 18 Sep 2011 Post subject: Buying a project bike, but how far do you take it? |
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I have just paid £100 to get my old Kawasaki GPZ 500 back, I sold it to my partners sister 2 and a half years ago, she threw it down the road a few weeks later and it spent a while off the road before being stored in the garden (all be it under a cover) for the rest of the duration.
It's a 97 with 23k on the clock (I put 10k on when I first owned it)
It has an MOT (though I don't think that has long left), new rear tyre, a SS 2-1 exhaust (which cost over £100 recently) and I believe the chain/sprockets are in good order too, also an Acumen alarm that I fitted. It's had everything done to make it as mechanically sound as possible but has been sat a while so no doubt could do with fluid changes.
As far as condition goes most pannels are scratched, so I'm not sure what I'll do with this?
I think a lot of hammerite is in order, but not sure if it's worth sorting the fairing out?
I am unsure if I will ride it as I currently don't own a motorcycle, or wether I'll just sell it, the reason I am buying it is for a bit of a project and because it's a bit of a bargain!
What is the usual drill with project bikes?
Appologies for the long post!
This is a picture of it shortly before I sold it;
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f196/norfolkriders/DSC00708.jpg
Tim ____________________ Speedshite 50cc > Honda XR125L > Kawasaki GPZ 500 S > 02 Honda Hornet > 05 Honda CG125 winter hack > 04 Kawasaki ER-5 > 99 Honda Hornet 600 > Kawasaki GPZ 500 S > 99 Honda Hornet 600 > 05 Honda CBR600F > 01 Honda Hornet |
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Which one broke it  ____________________ Happiness is realising you have another gear left |
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 Posted: 18:46 - 18 Sep 2011 Post subject: Re: Buying a project bike, but how far do you take it? |
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| TimNorwich wrote: | What is the usual drill with project bikes |
They get aquired with a lot of ideas and enthusiasm; torn to bits which are all neatly stored in boxes, pretty bits get painted, lots of service spares bought, then when you come to fit the brake pads, discover a siezed piston.... this delays the project, and you return to the pretty bits while trying to find some-one to get siezed piston out the caliper for you, becouse you took it off the brake line before popping it...... and you start polishing things like fork yokes.....
Two years later...... When you have to move house/have been given too much earache/have the 'idea'........
You pick back up..... and remember why you had given up...... the caliper is now free of piston, so you order a new piston & seal kit.... meanwhile you polish the chain guard, lube the chain, and contemplate the state of the tyres......
When seals arrive, along with the HEL braided line you thought to get as its that much better than the old perished rubber hose, that has strangely gone missing..... you put teh caliper back together, pop it on the forks, and go looking for some brake fluid....
Following weekend, after getting some at the petrol station on your way home from work one night...... you soundly round out the master cylinder reservour cap screws.......
SO... having spent all week-end, resorting to drilling out reservour screws.... you fill brake with fluid...... and attempt to bleed the system.... only the bleed nipple shears....
NO problem,. yo take caliper back off to get the mate that took piston out to have a look at it..... meanwhile you fit cap back on reservoir with gaffer tape..... and go check the web for a pair of new screws....
Horrified they are £1.75 +VAT each.... you say £For two M5 Counter-Sunk SCREWS!" and DONT order them.....
This fact is revealed to you two years later, when your 'mate' returns the caliper to you, becouse he was having a clear out...... now with an E-Z Shear frustration inducer lodged firmly in teh hole of the sheared bleed nipple......
Thats SORT of 'The Drill', plenty of variations on the enactment depending on bike...... REALLY.
Conclusion? Hassle; grief; frustration & expense; and at the end of the day, something that either gets sold off 'Just needs Fork-Seals for Test' on e-bay; dumped ignominiosely in a skip; OR if you bludy mindedly bat on with it; gets stuck in AutoTrader with a price tag that just abvout covers the price of parts you have bought, that makes Traders baulk and say "He's having a laugh!" ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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A good condition, lowish mileage GPZ is worth £7 - 800 on a really good day, yours, with full MOT and at least six months tax, maybe £500, more like £400. Sold as a spares /repair you are likely to get £200.
IF the engine is good, however, GPZ bits are plentiful and cheap. I recently bought one that needed a full frame restore and a replacement piston just to get it going. I put it back on the road for the grand outlay of about £150 and quite a bit of work,
I did NOT make a great proffit on that one!
Really, unless you are totally geared up to take on full rebuilds, its just not worth the effort. (BTW, the price of scrap metal these days, it is probably easier just to take it to a scrap dealer, bet you'll get at least £150 for it and you've done nothing!). |
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| TimNorwich wrote: | It's a fully working bike with plenty of bits worth money, so even if I decide to pack it in I can't see myself being at a loss? |
If you know the answer, why ask the question?
Look, you are being told by people that have done and do, and know how most projects go, what the score is. Do you think we are lying to you for the sake of it? Or do you hope that putting the question differently will get you the answer you want to hear?
"Yeah"! Great bike; carry on, be done in a week, and make you a mint! Flog for at LEAST three grand that will! Bet it don't need more than 50p worth of paint and a bit of old cornflake packet to bring it up a treat! Do it in your lunch hour you could!"
That what you want to be told?
Can TELL you that if you like, but wont make it so!
FACT; most projects don't make money.
FACT: most projects are far from 'easy'
FACT: most people never finish projects.
FACT: most unfinished projects get so; becouse people starting them DONT believe that they can fail, and wont heed advice offered.
You MAY be one of the very lucky ones; BUT, on a motorcycle with top book private sale price for very good 'original' condition example around £900, and half that for anything obviousely fixed up, you do not have a huge margin to work within; liklihood of making money VERY slim.
Your call........ ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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